Need some help !

** Originally posted by prcscut **

I just signed up for this website today .

My 4 year son has a bad case of psoriasis and he sees a derm next month. But i would love to be able to clear it up on his scalp . Is there any good shampoos to use till he goes to the drem ? I use a tar lotion on his body and it seems to help him a lot with the itching. Any suggestions would be wonderful.

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** Originally posted by MikeK **

Hi prcscut,

Welcome to the board. :cool: Nice to meet you. I'm sorry to hear about your son. :(

One of the first things that I always recommend to every parent is that whenever possible they take their child to see a pediatric dermatologist. That's because many of the medications that are used to treat psoriasis either aren't approved for use on children or (understandably) haven't been tested on children. You can find a pediatric dermatologist via the Society for Pediatric Dermatology's website: http://www.pedsderm.net/. (Depending on where you live, I can also give you links to posts where other parents have discussed specific pediatric dermatologists in Palo Alto, CA, Houston, TX and Chicago, IL.

You can try putting some mineral oil (or even some olive oil) on your son's scalp. If possible cover it with a shower cap and have him wear it overnight. (Cover his pillow case with an old towel and have him wear old pajamas.) That will help loosen the scales so you can gently comb them out in the morning. Ask your pharmacist and/or your son's pediatrician if you can use something called Baker's P&S Oil. (He would also have to wear it overnight -- again covered by a shower cap.) Baker's P&S oil is also mineral oil based. It's available over the counter, usually by special order. I've never been able to find a website for Baker's P&S oil, so I'm going to give you a link to a site that sells it online. I've NEVER ordered anything from them, so I have no idea how reliable they are. I'm giving you the link because I think that they're description is a good one: http://www.dermadoctor.com/product_PS-Liquid_206.html.

Both MG217 (http://www.mg217.com) and Neutrogena (http://www.tgel.com/us/products/scalp-therapy.html) make coal tar shampoos. Ask your pharmacist and/or your son's pediatrician if they'd be safe to use on someone as young as your son. Neutrogena's coal tar based shampoo is called Neutrogena T/Gel. They also make a salicylic acid based shampoo. Neutrogena T/Sal. Salicylic acid is one of the few doctor approved methods for removing scales. Again, triple check to make sure that it's safe to use on a four year old.

Using a shampoo with tea tree oil in it can be very soothing. (Again, please check before using.) Paul Mitchell (http://www.paulmitchell.com/Products/TeaTree/Special/Pages/TeaTreeSpecialSh ampoo.aspx) makes a tea tree shampoo that a lot of people use. I was told that I could only find Paul Mitchell products at a beauty supply store, but I was able to find it a New York area chain type drug store. It's very expensive, but I was able to find a cheaper tea tree shampoo by reading just about every bottle of shampoo in the store. A couple of years ago, Julia (AmeliasMom) -- who sadly no longer posts here -- recommended a shampoo by Nature's Gate: http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.php?p=81776&highlight=Nature%27s# post81776. I tried it and I like it a lot. Unfortunately, that particular product is no longer listed in Nature's Gate's website: http://www.natures-gate.com/shop/showCatalog.asp?category=137.

Taking a bath with product live Aveeno oatmeal soak (cheaper store brands are available) may help relieve some of your son's symptoms. (It will also help soften the scales and relieve that itch.) Aveeno's website makes my computer freeze, so here's a link to Walgreen's description of it: http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100363&navAction=jump&navC ount=0&nug=VPD&skuid=sku350108&id=prod350107. Four year olds like bubble baths. I could have sworn that Julia (AmeliasMom) once recommended a bubble bath when she ran into a similar problem for her daughter. Unfortunately, it turns out that she only mentioned them in passing when she answered her own post (after getting no responses). Here's the link to her post: http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.php?p=55183#post55183. We haven't heard from Julia in years, so I have no idea if she tried any of the products that she came across. I just checked out one of them: http://www.californiababy.com/super-sensitive-bubble-bath-13-oz.html. It looks very promising. Unfortunately, one person with psoriasis' poison is another person's solution and the only way to find out if something is going to cause a problem for your son is to try it. (Sigh) I would hate to see your son have a reaction to something, but I also hate to see him have to be deprived of something that might not cause his psoriasis to flare and that he might enjoy. ( I know -- there's no easy answer -- sigh.)

Speaking of baths, you should also avoid antibacterial and deodorant soaps, because those will irritate your son's psoriasis. If you use a body wash, then you should use something mild like Aveeno Active Naturals Advanced Care Body Wash (http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100559&navAction=jump&navC ount=6&nug=VPD&skuid=sku3521584&id=prod3522741#). Please spot test everything and stop using anything that irritates your son's skin. Here's a link to previous discussion about psoriasis and soap: http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13629.

I also find that the dyes and fragrances in detergent and dryer sheets, etc. irritates my psoriasis. (I've even had problems with Dreft! :eek: ) I haven't had any laundry related problems since I switched to "free and clear" laundry products.

I'm sorry that this turned into such a novel. You're probably suffering from information overload. :rolleyes: I hope it helps in some small way. Good luck. Keep us posted. Let us know if you have any other questions and please don't be a stranger.

Mike

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** Originally posted by MikeK **

It's me again. I forgot something that's very important. It's important that you keep your son's skin moist. That said, a mild moisturizer is very important. Please spot test everything, and buy the smallest size that you can find until you find one that doesn't irritate your son's skin. You should look for moisturizers that are labeled "fragrance free", "non-irritating" and/or "for sensitive skin". Here's what I'm currently using:

I hope this helps.

Mike

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** Originally posted by prcscut **

Thank you , i will try one some of those. I actually use the mg217 on his body , just waiting till he get's to see the dermatologist in march.

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** Originally posted by frommyvalentino **

Welcome to the board...and I've always hated to see kids suffer. I've had P since birth, so I know what it's like and how much of a toll it takes on parents. Mike offered some amazing suggestions (as always : ) ) but one of the best things you can do is make sure to just show your support in him, and try to not make him feel like he isn't normal.

I know as a kid I felt out of place because of P, NOW I'm fine...but it took a good 20 years to become okay with myself. I wish you luck ,and I hope your son's erm appointment goes well!

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** Originally posted by ccap **

Just to let you know my 4 yr old was at a pediatric derm the other day in Philadelphia. The salicylic body washes for a child are NOT safe and can make the P worse. He recommended Cutar which is a coal tar wash. You pour a couple capfuls into the tub and let him soak. It helps with the itching and the redness. He basically said that a 4 yr old is also too young for phototherapy, in his opinion. We are on a topical now and will see what happens. Just wanted to inform you on the salicylic body wash though b/c I was using Psoriasin body wash which contains salicylic acid.

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** Originally posted by ccap **

Frommyvalentino, you are right. Being a mom of a 4 yr old with P is tough but I also think it is tougher on us then them at this age. A 4 yr old is so innocent and I know my son makes no big deal of it whatsoever. It is as he gets older that I worry. However his attitude of P will also come from me. I can't let him see me get down and have to try to remain positive. Every time I bathe him or put on his meds, I get really bummed in all honesty. But I keep it entirely to myself and go bum out in another room :)

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** Originally posted by frommyvalentino **

Exactaly ccap. I didn't think about it AT ALL until I went to elementary school and started having people point it out that I was 'abnormal'. But good luck. : )

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