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grisglass Mar 4, 2009 • 1:33 PM

Ended up in this chair due to a training accident as a Racehorse Trainer. I am very familiar with the Low Level Lasers. We use them all the time for tissue regeneration in Racehorses. Believe me they work. Not only on soft tissue but they are very effective on Carpal Fractures. One of our star 3 year olds sustained a lateral Carpal Fracture. He was suppose to be 90 days stall bound with immobilization therapy, then 1 year turned out with a 50/50 prognosis of ever racing again. I started him on the Laser immediately after diagnosis. He received 3 treatments a day. Lasting 9 minutes each treatment, in 3 minute intervals, he wore Neodymium magnets 8 hours a day. To make a long story short he won his first start back in less than 6 months and is now 6 and still racing. While I have used it on myself for spasms leg I never dreamed trying it on my spine at the injury site. Don't ask me why ? Never crossed my mind. DUH..... But I will certainly rob it from the barn and start.

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tiger93 Mar 4, 2009 • 7:17 PM
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Thanks grisgrass. So you used it for spasms? Did it work for you? I am ordering a unit from Thor a company that sells LLL. I am going to try it on my injury site and see what happens. Heck it works on lab rats. I am wondering how the nerves that regenerate will by pass the scar tissue. Lets see what happens

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pdecrease Mar 5, 2009 • 12:20 PM

I'd like more info on this idea.

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MARTY_T_67 Mar 5, 2009 • 12:36 PM

after reading this i started some research and found a list of studies and outcomes. heres the site. scroll down a little and it shows studies done on different things.

http://www.cigna.com/customer_care/healthcare_professional/coverage_positions/medical/mm_0115_coveragepositioncriteria_lowlevel_laser_therapy.pdf

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tiger93 Mar 5, 2009 • 10:08 PM

Thanks Marty for the info.

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janders199 Mar 6, 2009 • 1:26 PM

Thanks to Marty T -

GREAT INFO!

I'm going to look into it with my chiropractor/accupuncturist and let you know what I learn!

Jim

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kaykaydemmy Mar 7, 2009 • 2:48 AM

I noticed that your picture shows you in what appears to be a standing frame, I was just wondering if it has made any improvements for you my husband has been using one twice a week for about a month and we have been noticing alot more movement. He had an infected hangnail on his big toe and as i was applying pressure to releive the infection it appeared that his toe and foot knew it was hurting even though he did not. Thanks

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janders199 Mar 7, 2009 • 1:32 PM

Yes, I am using a standing frame in the picture while getting a physical therapy treatment. I also have leg braces (KFO's) that I use at home.

I know exactly what you are talking about regarding a part of your paralized body hurting . . . and you don't even know it. I've had two surgeries since my spinal cord infarction . . . . and some doctors thought, since I was paralized that I didn't need normal sedation for the procedure. WRONG!

Having said that, I continue to improve gradually. I am right now in the process of ordering Pacer Gait Trainer. I'm going to first try to use it with my leg braces . . . . and hope to get to the point where I don't need the leg braces.

Pray for me . . . and I will pray for you!

Jim

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JennDianne Mar 13, 2009 • 6:30 AM

will do

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Globalwoundcare Mar 13, 2009 • 7:26 PM

I have treated diabetics with peripheal neuropathy with LLL and I liked the results alot. Medicare used to pay for it. I do not think they do any more. We are having to use E-stim now. It works, but not as well.

The type I was using was made by Annodyne. Actually I used a generic, but I think that company is closed. Annodyne has a website, or use to.

You know they are different wave lengths that do different things? Physical therapist probably know more about it than I do.

WBT

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Globalwoundcare Mar 13, 2009 • 7:28 PM

You know there is some interesting new things being done with stem cells and nerve tissue. I only know what I have run across on the internet. These are exciting times. We can grow new arteries using stem cells from the same patient we are growing the arteries in.

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ladybyrd043 Mar 17, 2009 • 1:33 PM
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This sounds extremely interesting. How much does one cost and where do you get one?

Debby

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grisglass Mar 17, 2009 • 3:05 PM

LadyByrd:

Firstly, Thank You for your service. God Bless You, Desert Warrior.

Originally I bought this laser from a vet about 5 years ago. At that time I paid 400.00 used, like new condition. I will be happy to do a little research and get back to you on the rest of the info.

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angelbrd67 Mar 23, 2009 • 5:15 AM

On September 13th I had a car accident that injured my neck. I have what they call a protruding disk with Moderate central canal stenosis. They used the LLL on the injury site after they found the bad disk this was about 3 weeks after the accident. I had very bad problems with my arms going dead and feeling like I had horrible fires going on under my skin from my neck down my arms. This thearapy took that away. I don't know why but it helped me avoid surgery right away. The day my son suffered his spinal cord Injury I was supose to go see a Neuro Doc to see if surgery was going to be needed or if I could just continue LLL and decompression as needed. Now I have no choice as surgery doesn't fit into our schedual even if it is needed...lol But I can tell you it is a great thearapy~!

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ladybyrd043 Mar 26, 2009 • 1:55 AM
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I am looking forward to whatever you find out.

Since you looked at my page...you know about my son. His injury is C-4 to c-6 complete. And, we're coninuously trying to find things that will help him.

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