Ill Effects of Some Soy Foods


WASHINGTON, DC. October 25, 2011. Honorable Judge Harold Baker of the United States District Court for the central district of Illinois has ruled that litigation challenging the use of soy foods in Illinois prisons will go forward. In his September 9, 2011 ruling, Judge Baker denied motions by the State and Wexford Health Sources for a summary judgment in their favor, thus bringing the case closer to trial. The ruling emphasized the importance of scientific and medical testimony at the trial.

The trial’s six plaintiffs are represented by the Weston A. Price Foundation, a leading voice on the dangers of soy foods, especially when consumed in large amounts. Involved in this suit since June 2009, the Foundation is seeking an injunction against serving soy-laden meals to Illinois prisoners. The lawsuit claims that feeding of soy-laden food constitutes cruel and unusual punishment in violation of the eighth amendment to the Constitution, as well as a denial of plaintiffs’ liberty in violation of their due process rights under the fourteenth amendment to the Constitution. The lawsuit also alleges that the private corporation and its private doctors, Wexford Health Sources, Inc. have been negligent in failing to provide adequate medical care to each of the plaintiffs who are suffering bodily injury and adverse health effects from being fed too much soy. The case is captioned Harris et al. v. Brown, et al., Case No. 3:07-cv-03225.

The use of soy in prison meals began when Rod Blagojevich was elected governor of Illinois in 2002. Beginning in January 2003, inmates began receiving a diet largely based on processed soy protein, with very little meat. In most meals, small amounts of meat or meat by-products are mixed with 60-70 percent soy protein; fake soy cheese has replaced real cheese; and soy flour or soy protein is now added to most of the baked goods.

Early in 2007, the Weston A. Price Foundation began hearing from inmates who were suffering from a myriad of serious health problems due to the large amounts of soy in the diet. Complaints include chronic and painful constipation alternating with debilitating diarrhea, vomiting after eating, sharp pains in the digestive tract, especially after consuming soy, passing out, heart palpitations, rashes, acne, insomnia, panic attacks, depression and symptoms of hypothyroidism, such as low body temperature (feeling cold all the time), brain fog, fatigue, weight gain, frequent infections and thyroid disease.

A related case in Florida, Eric D. Harris versus Keefe Commissary Network and others, number 2011CA000689 in the Second Judicial Court for Leon County, seeks a class action against the Florida Department of Corrections, for use of large amounts of soy in prison meals. Florida inmates wishing to participate in the lawsuit should contact the Weston A. Price Foundation at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. .

For further information: linois-prisoners.
This article does not mention the fact that almost all non-organic soy contains GMOs (genetically modified organisms). Some of the prisoners' symptoms may have been caused by the GMOs themselves.

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Confused About Soy?--Soy Dangers Summarized

•High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused growth problems in children.
•Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth.
•Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.
•Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.
•Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body's requirement for B12.
•Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D.
•Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.
•Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.
•Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods.
•Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys.
The above soy dangers and our Myths & Truths About Soy are available in our Soy Alert! trifold brochure for mass distribution.

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No more tofu turkey for Thanksgiving. :-(

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The organization behind eliminating soy from our diets, the Weston A. Price Foundation, is a highly controversial group. They recommend butter, meat, raw milk and other "nutrient dense" foods as the key to health. Question: Is not soy "nutrient-dense"? It contains large amounts of protein, B vitamins and is devoid of animal fat, which WAPF recommends...?

I for one am not so-far impressed by either this lawsuit or the WAPF. I recommend further research; meanwhile I'll continue to add protein to my meals with soy milk, tofu, and other soy-rich foods.

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Bridgian, I have read Weston A. Price's book (originally published about 1930) "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration," which you can read here free: I have the printed book, which is filled with wonderful pictures. The pictures tell the story. Soy is not discussed in that book.

I also have Sally Fallon's PHENOMENAL food-information-and-cookbook "Nourishing Traditions." It's one of the most interesting books I've ever read. I use her ideas and recipes regularly.

So I have a bias toward accepting what the Weston A. Price Foundation says. If you read Price's and Fallon's books, you'll find out where their ideas came from. If the WAPF is "controversial," I would ask, "among whom?" Probably among those who promote the very "foods of modern commerce" that have caused an epidemic of obesity, osteoporosis, and skyrocketing health-care costs here in the USA. Thank God the WAPF has stepped forward to challenge "the diet dictocrats."

You are welcome to eat soy. I still have a few soy products in my house, but after reading this I will be replacing them with non-soy foods.

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Our food supply has been altered in many unhealthy ways. In Jane Goodall's book "Harvest for Hope". she says "The goal with GM (genetically modified) crops is to change the genetic coding so that the crops become resistant to pests and to particular brands of herbicides. Bt corn is one of the most common genetically engineered crops in the U.S. This corn has been altered to make it's own bacterial toxin (bacillus thuringiensis) that is present in every cell and kills any insects that eat it......Today (the book was published in 2005) 167 million acres worldwide are planted with genetically modified crops, chiefly corn, cotton, soybeans, and canola, engineered to produce their own insecticides or withstand treatment by herbicides. 81% of soy grown in the U.S. is genetically engineered."

I think it's important for us to eat organic when we can and to avoid eating any animals that are not raised in a humane way for our sakes and for theirs.

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Dear Lilypads,

I haven't read the books of the Weston A. Price Foundation but I inform myself well enough to know that the WAPF is on the most far-out fringe of today's nutrition thinking. There is very little controversy about animal fat clogging the arteries; therefore it is eyebrow-raising that WAPF recommends butter and meat. In fact, it is becomiing clearer to scientiests and nutritionists every day that the more fruits and vegetables we eat, the better it is for the human race and the better it is for the planet. Personally, as a person with osteopenia, I am learning to keep my body PH level slightly alkaline. That means the less meat, (which is said to be acid producing) the better. Soy is an answer to the need for enough protein without meat and artery-clogging animal fat. I believe those prisoners may be better off, not worse off, with soy than meat, despite the claims of the WAPF Foundation.

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And despite their symptoms?

When I went back to college in the 1970s to study biology and chemistry so I could begin to make informed decisions about my health, I had a teacher for nutrition, chemistry, and biochemistry who had a family history of early heart attacks. He had a Ph.D. He was in his forties, getting close to the age when his father and uncles had died. He was the first person to alert me to the falsity of the ideas you espouse. He told us that eggs were good food, there was NO evidence that animal fat clogs arteries, etc. But he DID warn us, way back then, about trans fats and vegetable oils. A few years ago I ran into his wife, and she said he was well. He's still alive, now 76. His study allowed him to overcome his genetic programming for early death. I am enormously grateful to him for teaching me how to think for myself using scientific concepts.

You're welcome to your opinions, but I think if you do some digging, rather than just repeating what you have been hearing for the past thirty years, you may be surprised to discover that the Price Foundation is RIGHT.

What clogs arteries is very likely too much calcium, combined with insufficient Vitamin K2. alth-With-Vitamin-K2_01.htm?source=search&key=vitamin%20K2

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Google the words "soy" and "thyroid" and see what you get. Soy disrupts thyroid function.

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93% of soybeans grown in the USA are genetically modified. Maybe the prisoners experiencing digestive problems from their soy-based diets are reacting to the genetically modified organisms. They are in effect subjects of a huge experiment, which they did not a chance to opt out of.

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Bridgian: This is copied from Phil6200 in the discussion Vitamin D Test Results Vs Calcium Levels:

"Hi Tabbits.
I think your doctor is right on the money. Take a look at this information. If you have questions pls contact me.

Each Link in the information that follows should be looked at and not be skimmed over, as it systematically walks you through what you need to know:

I just had a surprise the other day, even though I run 3-5 miles 3 times a week, take 4,000 IU of Vitamin D3 and eat nothing but fat free or low fat foods. The main artery to my heart was 95% blocked, with 3 others blocked 80, 60, and 40%.

Then came the calcium report and NIH report that said that the majority of plaque is made up of calcium.

Vitamin D3 (2,000-4,000 IU) resulted in Too much calcium being in my blood. It clogged up my arteries in just 8 years. D3 puts so much calcium into my blood that it went into my artery walls instead of my bones.

NEVER take D3 or Calcium without first getting a blood test to see if your levels are within a normal range.

Taking Vitamin K2 (MK7) is necessary to put calcium were it is supposed to go.

Discussion: In this pooled analysis of around 12 000 participants from 11 randomized controlled trials, calcium supplements were associated with about a 30% increase in the incidence of myocardial infarction and smaller, non-significant, increases in the risk of stroke and mortality.

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Note: Logic says it is not just the supplements that you must consider but your total intake from all sources especially milk

From the National Institute of Health:

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Our nutritionist showed us what she believed to be the best calcium on the market, derived from Algae or plant derived. See link for Bone Strength below, if you scroll down you will find the contents… Remember it is the balance of the nutrients contained in this product that is important since they work without the other can be bad news.

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If you have trouble with any of the links, go to the posting here: itamin-d-test-results-vs-calcium-levels/ and scroll down to Phil6200.

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Regarding the "controversial" Weston A Price Foundation, if anyone wants to read some REVIEWS of Sally Fallon's "Nourishing Traditions," there are literally HUNDREDS of good ones on Amazon. Here is one:

"I have been a practicing medical doctor for about 20 years. In that time I have pursued my interest in nutrition literally to all corners of the globe. I have read scores of books on nutrition and treated hundreds if not thousands of patients with nutritional advice and natural medicines. Of all the published nutritional information on the shelves today, by far the most informative, reliable, comprehensive, and useful is Ms. Fallon's Nourishing Traditions. When I first came across Nourishing Traditions a few years ago, I was amazed that one person was about to amass virtually the entire wisdom of traditional societies concerning nutrition into one book. I found ancient recipes, cooking techniques, food preparation insights that are simply not to be found anywhere else. I urge all those who wish to truly pursue their knowledge of nutrition and to regain their own health to do one thing. Buy Nourishing Traditions, read it thoroughly, take a deep breath, and embark on a new way of life. Thomas Cowan, M.D. "

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I have been doing some "digging", at your suggestion regarding WAPF and the whole question of animal fat, and cholesterol. First of all, let me say, what put me off initially was WAPF's unbridled attack on soy products for prisoners (I rely on soy as I search for protein on my mostly vegan diet.) You did not mention that fermented soy products are considered healthful by WAPF. It is the newly processed soy products that WAPF is opposing and after reading their material (and particularly Michael Pollan's, I agree genetically modified soy products processed in up-to-date ways are probably not good for humans.

Lilypads, my first question, is:you say you/ve been eating a "lowfat" diet; how and why do you do that diet if you are following the Weston A. Price Foundation's rule about eating animal fat? Your choices it seems to me, reflect the dilemma that we are all facing as we struggle to eat healthfully.

That animal fat debate seems to me a major obstacle.. And the debate is still raging, although I personally believe WAPF is probably correct. I am an avid fan of Michael Pollan who wrote "The Ominvore's Dilemma" and many other books. He explains (google WAPF soy Michael Pollan) why today's processed soy is unhealthful and why cholesterol is pretty much a non-issue.

Lilypads, thanks for keeping us up-to-date with your struggles and thank you most of all for raising this all-important subject! It is a public service. And I am eager to see how you currently feel we should deal with the animal fat issue in our daily lives.

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lillypads: Thanks for all the links. But I am always leary of .com sites. Even many of the .edu sites are suspect because of the large amount of pharmaceutical research dollars they get to do their research. Blogs are mostly personal opinions. But, the NIH references are excellent however.

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Almost all soy sauces contain wheat, so maybe a lot of those prisoners have celiac disease? These guys want to eat MEAT, and use their incisors not their molars. If you don't want to eay soy burgers, don't commit crimes that will land you in jail.

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The posting above with all the links was copied from Phil6200. He's the one on the low-fat diet, not me. (And he's the one with calcium-clogged arteries, not me.) I eat lots of fat--coconut oil, butter, ghee, which I make myself, schmaltz (chicken fat) which I skim from my homemade broth, olive oil, bacon and bacon grease, peanut butter, tahini, nuts.

About a year ago I decided I needed to lose some weight. I knew from past experience there was only one way to do that: eat pork and eliminate carbohydrates. I started eating 2 slices of bacon and 2 eggs (but no toast) every morning. I lost 10 pounds in about 3 months. I've kept it off. I am not fat, though I'd like to lose another 5 pounds. I was reading Broda Barnes's classic book "Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness," and he told of an experiment where pigs were fed fat to fatten them. They ate the fat and waited many hours before coming back to the trough. They didn't gain weight. When they were fed corn, however, they were hungry in an hour, back at the trough chowing down in an hour, just like humans, and they packed on the pounds, just like humans.

My metabolism is very fast. If I don't eat fat, I'm always hungry, and then I snack and gain weight. I have low blood pressure, no family history of heart disease. No cholesterol issues. A diet that works for me might not be good for someone else. I was a vegetarian for several years and gained weight eating beans, rice, corn and dairy (mostly cheese). Now I am allergic to dairy, so there's no way I can get along without animal protein. I eat a LOT of vegetables. I have a big year-round garden and grow many of them. But I also eat meat and I don't feel guilty about it. I eat locally produced meat in small quantities.

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Dxaguru, I use only wheat-free tamari at home. If I eat out and have soy sauce that contains wheat, I definitely feel it.

Bridgian, I'm glad you're looking into this. I have Michael Pollan's books, which were given to me. I read one, but not the other. I'll take a look.

I think the soy protein products (TVP) are probably the worst of all the soy products. And that's what the prisoners are being fed. Tempeh probably wouldn't be so bad.

The first author that was assigned by my wonderful teacher back in the 70s was Roger J. Williams, who wrote "Biochemical Individuality." The book was first published in 1956, and it's still in print and available at Amazon. As a result of reading that (I'm tempted to buy it again) I realized that there is no perfect diet for everybody. People with "slow burning" systems do fine as vegetarians. Different climates result in different diets. Eskimos thrived on whale blubber and had very little disease. But tropical people didn't eat whale blubber, even if they could have. Weston A. Price's travels taught him that the nutrient-dense foods for each culture were different, but they still resulted in good health, strong bones, wide dental arches, & cavity-free teeth. Now it's up to us to try to understand our bodies and figure out what kind of diet works best for us.

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Lilypads--I looked at the ingredients in the Now Full Spectrum mineral capsules. As I recall, they contain 198 mg of phosphorus and we're only supposed to have about 700 mg per day. And since I'm a carnivore, that would be a problem for me since meat also has a lot of phosphorus. Over 700 mg of phosphorus and it works against us. I may just take manganese and boron separately. And the DHEA ;

Did you see what Lara posted tonight about the 2:1 ratio of calcium to SC? That's a problem for me because of my calcium renal leak. I am not supposed to have that much calcium. I guess I'll have to hope for the best in August, which is my next dexa.

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Spunky, I don't worry too much about the precise numbers. I doubt I had twice as much calcium as strontium for most of the past six years, but my numbers still went up. (For much of that time I only took 3 of the Full Spectrum CAPS.) I'm not that worried about the phosphorus because I know it's part of the hydroxyapatite (bone meal). I wouldn't go out of my way to take MORE phosphorus. I too am a carnivore. I don't eat steaks and hamburgers, but I do eat meat. Keeping the pill quantity down and the price affordable is also important to me.

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Weston Price does say to eat meat , eggs, bacon etc..But he is talking about eating Organic Grass fed , soy free Meat, with Out , Msg, nitrites, also no soy...
Eating, Organic free range eggs , and chicken, that are NOT eating soy, hormons, poisons. That yoke will have 3 times more Omega 3. The Yoke is not yellow, its is Orange.
Trader Joe's eggs are Not Soy free..They will say, Organic, or Range free, but that does not
mean too much! That is just allot of words..Organic, Soy free, "Grass fed" etc, is the key words to eating healthy.
Soy is the second ingredient in Organic chicken food..If anyone has chickens they can find a mill that has
chicken food with-Out Soy.
Whole Foods does not sale soy free , grass fed eggs. There sold more at your farmers market, Local health food stores, or find someone that has chickens. Or buy some Organic greens for them, at your market.

I have noticed in the market, there are allot of foods that now say, "Soy Free".
Now people are realizing, that they have been sick cause there allergic to Soy. It is becoming a common problem.

Soy and Corn where grown to feed cows, pigs etc. to fatten them up for market..Its a Cheap food, and Mansanto grows the GMO Soy, Corn, that is in just about everything we eat, and animals eat.

There are now children that have type 2 Diabetes by the time there 8 years old. As I have said, almost all foods have Soy
in them, and its fattening up the kids, and us, and causeing Thyroid cancer and other types of cancers.
Kids are eating more processed foods then ever before..Almost all processed foods are full of Salt, sugar, soy, fake oils,
and fake sugers, and there Gmo..
Big companies have money, and money has Power.
Formented soy is ok to eat. I believe any food that is Formented is healthy.

We need K2- MK-4 to take the calcium to our bones and not our arteries. It has a short shelve life in our body (about 3 to 5 hours). It should be taken 2 to 3 times aday..K7 is not needed as often, or maybe 3 times a week.
K2-Mk-4 is not in much foods. It is in Organic grass fed Butter, or google .

I also want to mention that Virgin Organic Coconut oil is Not a bad fat. Its healthy.
There are many books out to support how healthy Organic Coconut oil is, Or google.

My Cholesterol had been high for years. I use to buy the fake egg whites at the market. Since I have been eating
Soy free, Organic grass fed chicken eggs, my HDL has gone up, and My LDL has gone down. Yay.
I very rarely used , or cooked with butter. Now I use the grass fed butter, Coconut oil, & Olive oil, and still my Chols. is going down.

You might want to read "The Whole Soy Story, By Kaayla T. Daniel.

Take Care,
P.s. Please excues my spelling. Its late, and I'm not previewing it .lol..

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Thanks Lilypad for bringing Weston A. Price to Inspire.
We have been bombarded by TV to believe that milk & Dairy sold in the markets has been healthy for our bones,
which it has not.
That eating Low fat, or fat free is healthy, and we all have been getting sicker and fatter.
I noticed that none fat sour cream has high fruitose sugar in it. But low fat or regular does not.
Sugar is cloging our arteries.

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