Bone Pain

I am an active 35 year old with Severe Osteoporosis. I learned from this site that many use an Endocrinologist so I got one to help me with my issues. I am very happy with the care I am getting. I started on IV therapy several years ago and I got some improvement in the beginning but now my bones are not building and not breaking down. The doc said they are locked. I met with a bone specialist he is checking into the idea of my osteo being as a result of environment. He said I need to be tested for Metals in my body. That would cause bone pain and osteoporosis. Anyone ever heard of this?

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No but it does not suprise me to hear that the enviroment possibly could play a part in it. My father was a master plumber and kept a coffee can with mercury in it. He used it in his profession for cleaning pipes off. My dad showed all four of us children how to clean coins with it. So has children we played with it often. Now days they quarantine complete buildings if one tiny drop its the floor. As adults with various degrees of illiness the four of us wonder if playing with the mercury is why we are sick

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I am sure your endo has done all relevant testing including Vitamin D levels. You may have to do the acid/alkaline diet bit because you may have some form of metabolic acidosis.

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My Vitamin D is low so I take extra D along with the Oscal-D and my diet is rich in Vitamin D, but its still low. If my osteo is as a result of metals or something in my environment, does anyone know if there is something they have tried or read about that will help my bones get better? I worry about a hip fracture because the osteo is in the hip worse than the spine, and a lot of my pain is hip pain. I am not being negative, but I worry what in the world would I do with a hip fracture, or bones breaking for no apparent reason. How do you deal with that?

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I would be very surprised if you DIDN'T have heavy metals ...most of us do unless we are actively getting rid of them. One of my favorite Authors is Dr. Sherry Rogers. In her book DETOXIFY OR DIE, there are multiple references to osteoporosis. Here is part of one of the passages...
"as the chemical and food industry vehemently asserts, small amounts [of diverse chemicals etc] are harmless. This is true. But they neglect to mention that since we do not totally detoxify the everyday "harmless" amounts of chemicals that we inhale and ingest, they silently stockpile (bio-accumulate) in our tissues. This is not harmless.....Decades later when they do cause disease, we still don't get the message. We chalk it up to old age. We see nothing suspicious about getting cancers, auto-immune diseases like lupus, arteriosclerosis, high blood pressure, arrhythmia, high cholesterol, multiple sclerosis, OSTEOPOROSIS, .....and other degenerative diseases in midlife. [paraphrased for brevity...see page 7.
Other things that contribute to Osteoporosis are Fluoride (p.19) , too much acid from meats (p. 24), cadmium and arsenic from porcelain tooth restorations (p. 26). Pesticides, voaitile organic hydrocarbons, auto and industrial pollution, mycotoxins, heavy metals and more mimic any disease. They can cause any symptom or disease from high blood pressure, heart failure, OSTEOPOROSIS, high cholesterol, arthritis, or Alzheimer's disease to Fibromyalgioa......Parkinson's disease.......Cancer...and more. p. 89.

These are just a few of the passages. I love her books. By the time you read them, you will probably know more about the particular topic than most physicians. I have many of her books listed on my website, for ease of referring them to people. (not a whole lot there, right now, but Her info is there!)
www.betterboomerbodies.biz. My intent is to blog about things I'm reading that may help others in their quest for wellness. I lose myself in her books, for hours! not so great for my productivity, but i'm learning a lot. "Diet and environment make up 95% of the cause of Cancer, and other diseases. (p.56). If you read her books, prepare for your eyes to pop out of your head in amazement! (just kidding...your eyes will be fine!).
enjoy!
mb

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To follow up on boomerbodycoach's blog, today Dr. Mercola's newsletter has an article on the poisonous effect coffee has on osteoporosis. Made me seriously think of weening myself off the stuff. See www.mercola.com.
Ranita, try reading the "pH is Vital for Whole Body Health" at http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthuston/acid_alkaline_foods_list.html . This does a fairly good layman's interpretation for you.

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Millie123!
thanks for the reminder of the Mercola website...and the alkaline food list (site). I keep meaning to print out a pocket sized list of alkaline foods to remind myself to eat more of them...and which ones that should really be organic, and which ones it doesn't matter so much <G>. Of course, if you are not buying local, who KNOWS what happens to that organic food on it's way to you! I love these discussions. Just had some prunes for a snack. ..and it will soon be time for my GREEN SMOOTHIE, with Kale. LOL! sometimes it is just a matter of reminding one's self to DO IT!
Have a healthy weekend!
mb

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what's your recipe for a Green Smoothie?

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Well, I have several <G>. I kinda startl with 1/3 Veggie of some sort, 1/3 fruit, 1/3 Water...got that from the GreenSmoothieGirl.com.
I use Kale, Pineapple, banana, maybe some grapes. Variety is good. I have heard it is good to use Collard greens too but have not tried them.
I just remove the spiney stems from the Kale (only because my DOGS love them and are standing at the sink waiting for them). if you don't have dogs, throw it all in! Organic is best, of course. 1/2 - 1 banana, slice of pineapple. If I want it sweeter, or just for variety, add grapes, or some apple. be creative. I use a cup of each for a single serving for me...makes 2 cups.
I also made on the other day with carrots. Warning..if you mix "red" veggies, with GREEN veggies, you get BROWN...not very pretty to look at but the taste would have been ok if I had not put so much cilantro in it. LOL~! Eventually I'll blog about what I try and what doesn't work. but have not managed to do that yet.
hope this helps. if you get a mix that is not sweet enough to your liking, just add Stevia. And, you NEED a high speed powerful blender like the Blendtec or Vitamix. I have tried them in blenders and food processors that were not up to the job and they can be CHEWEY...Just a thought! If you have more questions, happy to do my best to answer them. the options are myriad!
mb

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What kind of test does the doc need to do to find out if its some form of metabolic acidosis? Thank you all for your input and encouragement to try different things. I am all about natural if it works and makes you feel better why not do it.
Ranita

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Have you had a PTH (parathyroid hormone) test?
It is also a cause of bone pain and osteoporosis.

See this site:
www.parathyroid.com/parathyroid-symptoms.htm

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Ranita,

From what I understand, vitamin D is crucial for calcium absorption, so that could be a big contributer to why you have osteoporosis. Do you have other vitamin deficencies? Could you have celiac disease or something that inhibits proper nutrient absorption?

You're pretty young to have had severe osteoporosis for several years. Good luck figuring it out. It's pretty confusing and there's a lot of contradictory information out there. ~Susan

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Ranita,

I posted this over on Aussielass's discussion, but it may be relevant to your bone pain. This is from a video Dr. Michael Hollick (the vit D guy) may at a European symposium on Vit D. He states:

Osteoporosis is called the "silent disease" because just plain osteoporotic bone doesn't cause bone pain.
BUT osteomalacia, which is the fancy name for Vitamin D deficiency, does cause bone pain---the more deficient, the more severe the bone pain. And the reason is because osteomalacia causes a dysfunction in COLLAGEN metabolism----the collagen weakens, expands, and pushes upwards causing inflammation, throbbing and aching bones.
(There are a few Inspire members who have extremely low D levels and have experienced this bad pain.) Hollick goes on to say that the Mayo Clinic found that 93% of their patients with fibromyalgia or generalized bone pain were Vit D deficient---and thus collagen deficient. I may not have this exactly right as I'm stating it from memory, but it is very close to it. And you can watch the video if you are interested. The segment on bone pain and vit D is about in the middle where he talks about osteoporosis, so you can just jump to there as the video is quite long---covers many aspects of Vit. D
http://www.uvadvantage.org/portals/0/pres/
Good luck, Santa Fe

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