Yesterday I went to a concert and we got there early and they were not letting people in but I had to go to the washroom so I asked politely. They said no and then I said I have a medically necessary reason to go to the washroom can I go, they told me no. I told them I had a medical note, they said no. I ended up going down the street to a bar and using the washroom. Then when I came in later they searched my purse and I carry scissors with a medical note. They told me I couldn't enter, I asked for the manager and he came up. He gave me a hard time and eventually I bluntly said "would you like to see the bag of shit on my stomach?" and they let me in. This can't be the proper way to treat someone. Has anyone else had issues like this? Thanks in advance for your answers.
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- By RiotGrl82 · October 28, 2012 at 5:02 pm · 28 replies
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- By alan41241
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- October 29, 2012 at 8:37 am
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Riotgrl, I love your responsive outburst. I wish I had that much nerve. All I can say is, "Good for you!!"
Blessings,
Alan
- By Bunnyhopper
- Reply 3498371 · In reply to 3497455 by ChantalRb
- October 29, 2012 at 8:57 am
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When I travel, especially on an airplane, I pre-cut the stomahesives in advance, so I don't have to pack scissors. Just a thought.
Tammy
- By ChantalRb
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- October 29, 2012 at 12:15 pm
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Smart!!! Thanks Tammy
- By chris082
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- October 29, 2012 at 12:29 pm
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I just flew and when I got to station where they check you ticket and ID I had taken my scissors out of my carry on and told the person I had a colostomy and showed her the scissors and told her I needed them in case I needed to take care of any issues. She told me no problem and I put the scissors back in my carry on and put it through the scanner w/ no problem. I went throught the full body scanner w/ no problem. They did pat my shoulders for some reason but said I was fine.
I feel so badly for you! I think you statement should have humiliated them beyond words. Good for you!
We do need to take every opportunity to educate people. I had planned in advance if I was given any hassle at the ariport security that I was going to ask to be search in private and educate the heck out out of the person searching me! Who knows, had that happened that person who did the search would know more the next time the situation came up.
Hold you head up and never be ashamed of who you are and what you have.
- By lilymyiley
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- October 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm
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Dear Riotgrl; What a horrible experience. I hope you take the time to write or call the manager of the theatre you were at. The staff there definitely need some education. It makes me so angry that people are just really insensitive to others needs. You could have needed the bathroom for a million reasons. Do you have a local ostomy association that could write the manager as well? A note from them could have a bit more "clout" than yours. Consider also writing a letter to the editor of your local paper. The whole world needs to be educated on the difficulties we sometimes encounter.
I'm so sorry you had this happen to you.
- By Mare5785
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- October 29, 2012 at 3:32 pm
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Riotgrl... This is outrageous that this happened to you!! I would in deed write them a letter... There has to be someone above the manger you could address it to. Wouldn't hurt to tell them you are also going to write a leter to the editor of your local paper!
The CCFA has little cards that state we need access to a bathroom.. It might help. I think having the letter is a great also.. They were certainly JERKS for not listening to you.
GLad that you eventually were able to enter.. but horrible how you had to get there!!
You help so many people yourself.. this was a shame!
I'm not sure if your state has the bathroom law or not.. If it does.. you certainly have legal ramifications. There are few states that have it though.
Good luck..
Mare
- By alan41241
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- October 29, 2012 at 4:28 pm
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How's it going, Mare? Are you still safe?
Blessings,
Alan
- By RiotGrl82
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- October 31, 2012 at 10:28 am
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Thank you Mare and everyone else who posted on this forum. I got in touch with my local CCFA and did find out that Illinois has Ally's law. So I have printed out the actual law and put it in my little emergency travel pouch that I carry with me. If anyone ever tries to deny me again I will just pull out the law. I also found the card on the CCFA website. I called the manager but have not received a phone call back at this time. Thanks again everyone!
- By BigDaddy-Rosebud
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- October 31, 2012 at 2:25 pm
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Good for you RiotGrl for taking a stand on this matter. I agree with Mare. No one should have to go through that treatment. I think I would have opened up on his shoes. ha ha, kidding! lol
- By alan41241
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- October 31, 2012 at 2:39 pm
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BigDaddy, why are you kidding? I think it's a fine idea.
Blessings,
Alan
- By BigDaddy-Rosebud
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- October 31, 2012 at 3:19 pm
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Well, it's just not the right thing to do Alan. I mean what if I accidentally got a drop on MY shoe. My wife would kill me! ;o)
- By Mare5785
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- October 31, 2012 at 3:27 pm
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Hey Guys... With a pair of shorts on.. easy to get at?? Why not?!! They deserved it!!!
- By Kailua86 (Inactive)
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- October 31, 2012 at 3:54 pm
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RiotGrl,
First of all who was playing at the concert?
I was walking my normal 6 mile route one morning and I had to walk on the road for maybe the length of a house. A cop came swooshing in , lights rolling siren whaling and cut me off before I crossed the street. This is in a residential area althopugh it was on the main road.
He asked me if I knew how dangerous it was walking on the street. I said yes and explaind that the trees were in the way and all this.
Then he looks at my waste line and asks me if that was a pedometer I had on. I said no ,its my shit bag.
He said "Wow, really, how does it work? " And he preceded to ask all kinds of questins about it while his lights we still flashing and while we were both in the middle of the road.
I see him like 3 times a week know and he always honks like we are buddies. I was thinking about leaving a gently used pouch on his squad car.
Kailua
- By BigDaddy-Rosebud
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- October 31, 2012 at 4:12 pm
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I've heard of blood brothers but..... lol
You rock Kailua!
- By alan41241
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- October 31, 2012 at 4:21 pm
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My laugh for the day, Kailua. Still laughing.
Blessings,
Alan
- By JRo12
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- October 31, 2012 at 7:30 pm
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Oh Kailua you so crazy,
All right I am going to be brutualy honest here and it is not to dismiss anyone or anything. I can understand not being let in the bathroom, been there, having others ask lots of questions about your condition, been there and that is ok, the more they understand the better. But when an airline lets you on a plane with scissors and it goes thru the scanner just fine, that is a bit scary for me. and maybe I will feel completely different if in a situation where I am going to need them, but I guess I say this because I had a friend during 9/11 whom I loved very much. The idea of cutting the waifers before hand is a great idea. Chris and everyone I hope you don't take that the wrong way.
I have been there many times and it was the worst when I didn't have the Illeostomy. When I didnt things were so much more precarious and when I was about to have an accident holding my but cheeks so close I thought I was going to tip over, but no one would beleive you, saying " ya right you really, gotta go, well I gotta go to lady" At least with the Illeostomy I know I have much more time to spare.
OK I don't want to sound stupid, when it is so easy to do, but I have to ask cause I am unsure what is the CCFA?
Hope everyone is having a good night!
JRo
- By chris082
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- November 4, 2012 at 2:48 pm
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I travel alot for work. Before having a colostomy I would sometimes have a small pair to scissor in my carry on to cut boxes open when I has setting up my booth at exhibits. I never said anything thinking if they took them, they took them. I never was asked about them after they were scanned. The reason I said anything up front this time is that I really may have needed them for my colostomy care. I wouldn't be too afraid that I showed them and got through securiy, It happens everyday. Someone is hardly going to overtake a cabin of flyers w/ a small pair of ostomy scissors. I don't take offense about your concerns, I just don't see them as a threat to airplane safety to begin w/.
- By JRo12
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- November 4, 2012 at 3:36 pm
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Hi Chris,
Again I didn't say that to offend anyone and yes nobody could probbably take down a plan with a pair of ostomy scissors, Like I mentioned I am just really sensitive about this but if a pair of ostomy scissors are allowed what else would they allow small like this but even sharper. I shouldn't have even mentioned it, this is just what was on my mind at the time so I am sorry. Lot of stuff going on in my life right now. last thing i want to do is make someone feel bad.
Always
JRo
- By chris082
- Reply 3518448 · In reply to 3515006 by JRo12
- November 5, 2012 at 6:42 pm
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You do not need to apologize for anything. That is what is tough w/ on-line discussion because you don't get the non-verbals and tones of voices. I am just fine w/ you and sensitive to your situation. Really! I do get it. Sometimes I am a little pollyanna, even my family says so. I hope we are good. No bad feelings coming from me at all. Have a good evening and I look forward to more conversation w/ you!
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OMG!! I'm so sorry you had to go through this! I have never had issues like this but wanted to thank you for sharing your story so that I can be prepared for something like this to happen! That makes me think, what can we do when we take a plane? We would need to carry on scissors in our kit. I have no paper from my doctor...things to think about!