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Hello Friends,
I just found this video on Youtube and found it very interesting. Take a look and tell me your thoughts..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msoyRYSoSJk
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What do you think of this Gardasil info?
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- By chamomile
- Posted April 21, 2009 at 9:53 am
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Perhaps she should be told about the many many women who are "properly screened" and STILL develop CC!
- By EK123
- Posted April 21, 2009 at 10:21 am
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I attended a recent informational meeting on HPV and the vaccine at our local hospital and there was a very outspoken woman at the meeting against the vaccine who referred to this video.
Bottom line, there is no evidence to support the instances of death and/or health problems as being directly related to the vaccine. The statistical significance of these unfortunate events are NO HIGHER in the Gardisil vaccine group vs. the non vaccinated group and cannot be directly equated to the vaccine.
And, I have a 14 year old daughter and have not vaccinated her with Gardisil yet. Here is why: She got the "chicken pox" vaccine when she entered Kindergarten. Despite exposing her numerous times, she just never got chicken pox. Dr's assumed this shot would prevent it from occuring in the future. Two years ago, they realized it wasn't holding, and a booster was required. I am also in the age group the early 1970s Measles vaccine didn't hold and had to get a repeat series in my early 20's.
Gardisil may potentially be the same way... they are assuming at least 5 years of full protection against HPV, but most likely several boosters will be required throughout a girls lifetime to maintain full immunity to the strains of HPV it protects against. But, since it's only been out for a few years, the medical field simply is not yet sure on it's longevity.
If this vaccine had been out when I was younger, I MAY have avoided the dysplasia I am dealing with today. However, despite this, I have decided to wait and see what some of the longer-term effects may be and the likelihood that the vaccine will hold before giving the series to my daughter. Given my own recent high-risk HPV diagnosis we've had a lot of great talks as a result.
- By Su_silva
- Posted April 21, 2009 at 10:33 am
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I'm with you, Chamomile.
OMG, I could write a book about the video... she said something about "with proper screening any woman in US will die again of cervical cancer." What??? How many women only here in this website have been gotten pap tests since always and still got the diagnosis of cervical cancer? What do you want for your daughter? Do you want to protect her from having some itching after the shot, or do you want to protect her from being in college and having to visit doctors every 2 weeks, going though surgeries that will make her thinking about her fertility and being afraid that she has cancer... aaaaaaah I just got so upset!
- By EK123
- Posted April 21, 2009 at 10:54 am
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The lady at the meeting I was at was totally misinformed, too. Speaking all over the board about stuff that had little bearing on the disease. Very rude and unruly, too!
The Dr. presenting told her she probably shouldn't get her medical information off of You Tube... LOL. I thought the Doc handled it really well, despite the outburst at the meeting.
- By flowershoplady
- Posted April 21, 2009 at 11:15 am
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exactly....you need to take into consideration where the info is coming from....you tube??? not exactly a reputable source of information. another reason to not believe everything you read/see, particularly on the internet!
- By Dragonfly23
- Posted April 21, 2009 at 11:57 am
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It's great to provide statistics, but without having a context (X number of people developed side effects, yes but out of how many thousands receiving the shots). I would much rather have my daughter deal with what are typically minor side effects than the potentially long term and life threatening effects of HPV. My daughter has already gotten the Gardasil shots.
The system used to report these side effects (VAERS) only published the first notification regarding a specific patient so any additional follow-up info is not provided online thus skewing the results. These are also "undocumented" effects which can be reported by anyone.
I don't think that it should be mandatory however, unlike measles, mumps, and other diseases which are communicated by simply breathing (those need to be mandated).
- By chamomile
- Posted April 21, 2009 at 2:15 pm
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I got itching, redness, and swelling at the injection site when I got my flu shot this year (first time flu shot). Big deal! It was a low blow to equate this will syphilis. It was purely to generate a negative emotional reaction and shock.
The only thing that I can say that I agree with is the false sense of security. However, not in the way that she presented it. My fear is more on the medical and research community presenting the vaccine as a cure of all CC. There will most certainly be a need for screenings and there will be hpv related cancer, albeit dramatically reduced hopefully. I still want there to be research money and effort put into curing hpv for this reason, and for those already affected by it. There needs to be a better way to treat this rather that cutting out our organs. I fear complacency in the assumption that CC is a thing of the past. I think we already have this, evidenced by the believe that CC is 100% preventable (something I was told by doctors and that I believed). It may not be the number 1 killer anymore in the US, but it is still robbing women of their lives and fertility.
- By Faith2
- Posted April 22, 2009 at 12:41 pm
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The first question that comes to my mind is what's the organization's agenda?
Redness and pain @ injection site? Could be many meds that are given IM (intramuscularly). These are minor, transient side effects that go away. Passing out? I know people who've passed out donating blood to help others in need - should they stop donating?
Ideally, there shouldn't be ANY cervical cancer, should there, in light of the Pap test development and its' detection abilities. But, there is...and for many reasons beyond a woman's control, those of us who had false negative Paps can attest to that. We live in a real world, not an ideal world. We need thorough, accurate education, not this kind of nonsense.
- By Faith2
- Posted April 22, 2009 at 12:56 pm
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Good point, Chamomile. While prevention is important, so is the current trend for dealing with HPV related disease in women, which in itself, needs better advancement than just cutting away, compromising fertility and turning a woman's world upside down often with little regard & support for how she goes on afterward.
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