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Chemo has 3% success rate so why not research Alternative Methods?

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http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/blog/2009/10/03/chemo-does-not-cure- often-it-inflicts-damage-and-spreads-cancer-2/

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Sorry, I can't help but ask what supplements are you selling and what happened to the post you made yesterday?

Also, where did you get the information that chemo has a 3% success rate? I would like to see the source of that information.

It would seem to me that the success rate (just based on the personal experiences provided on this site) of chemo is just the opposite. Even when the chemo treatment does not provide 100% success, it seems that more often then not some success is achievement.

That's one of those ludicrous internet statistics. I couldn't find any actual scientific study to back it up. However, if true, I must know a lot of miracles because I personally know several people that have been alive over 5 years because of chemo. I think on a site where people's very lives depend on good information, posting such nonsense is inexcusable. Sure alternative therapies may hold promise and are the right choice for some people, I'd probably do an alternative approach, but let's not discourage those who are depending on chemo to save their lives! Remember folks, just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it valid. For one thing different cancers have radically different responses to chemo so there is no way in the world to give an overall statistic like that.

I think the purpose of the post is to make money off the backs of sick people. I have to wonder how do some people sleep at night?

I don't sell supplements (very funny) and they took down the post due to giving links to a couple of my sites on Alternative Cancer information as they thought I was selling something. And as I said to them if I was in to making money as a film maker I would be shooting porno not movies on how people are curing themselves naturally. And to answer you question on where I got it... well I posted the link which was from this site: http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/

And here is another article:

http://www.encognitive.com/node/1569

And there are many more not to mention people and doctors I've interviewed over the last ten years in making my film. Here are just a few notes I got from googling it.

"My studies have proved conclusively that untreated cancer victims live up to four times longer than treated individuals. If one has cancer and opts to do nothing at all, he will live longer and feel better than if he undergoes radiation, chemotherapy or surgery, other than when used in immediate life-threatening situations."---Prof Jones. (1956 Transactions of the N.Y. Academy of Medical Sciences, vol 6. There is a fifty page article by Hardin Jones of National Cancer Institute of Bethesda, Maryland. He surveyed global cancer of all types and compared the untreated and the treated, to conclude that the untreated outlives the treated, both in terms of quality and in terms of quantity. Secondly he said, "Cancer does not cure". Third he said "There is a physiological mechanism which finishes off an individual".) http://www.sickofdoctors.addr.com/articles/medicalignorance.htm

The great lack of trust is evident even amongst doctors. Polls and questionnaires show that three doctors out of four (75 per cent) would refuse any chemotherapy because of its ineffectiveness against the disease and its devastating effects on the entire human organism. This is what many doctors and scientists have to say about chemotherapy:
“The majority of the cancer patients in this country die because of chemotherapy, which does not cure breast, colon or lung cancer. This has been documented for over a decade and nevertheless doctors still utilize chemotherapy to fight these tumors.” (Allen Levin, MD, UCSF, “The Healing of Cancer”, Marcus Books, 1990).


So as I mentioned in last nights post that was taken down I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything just presenting the facts that you won't get from seeing a regular Western Medical Doctor due to the fact they are owned by big Pharma. I think everyone should look at all their options before making any decisions. And because I personally have interviewed so many people that are still alive I can't help but spread the news. Sorry if this bothers you.

Chemo has a better record with some cancers particularly with the blood.

"The great success stories of chemotherapy were always in relatively obscure types of cancer. Childhood leukemia constitutes less than two percent of all cancers and many of chemotherapy's other successes were in diseases so rare that many clinicians had never even seen a single case (Burkitt's lymphoma, choriocarcinoma, etc.)"—Ralph Moss


And again I must re-iterate that this is just information to consider. I think everyone should know their options not just what their doctor tells them.

I agree and am not trying to persuade anyone. I know what I would do and that's all that counts. I've just met so many people that have lost loved ones to the treatment of cancer using western methods that then learned about Alternative and wished to God they knew it before hand and actually used Alternative successfully themselves when they got it.

PLEASE, LEAVE THOSE OF US WHO CHOSE CHEMO ALONE AND STOP MAKING US FEEL LIKE WE HAVE COMMITTED SUICIDE BY GETTING IT. THESE TYPES OF POSTS MAKE ME WANT TO STOP COMING ON HERE. I KNOW SOMEONE ON HERE AWHILE AGO, DON'T REMEMBER WHO, SAID IF THE HERBS INFO GOT OUT THE DOCTORS WOULD LOSE THEIR $300,000 A YEAR JOB. THEY DESERVE $300,000 AND LOTS MORE A YEAR. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY PAY FOR AN EDUCATION. BOY, I BET NO ONE WOULD SAY THAT ABOUT A FINANCIAL BROKER WHO WAS MAKING THEM MONEY AND WAS MAKING 32 MILLION A YEAR!!!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK.
KAREN

Money? There's no money in Alternative treatments comparatively speaking. Sure if you are well off and can afford to be babysat at a lush resort while being treated but most alternative methods are cheap and able to be done at home.

Bottom line Alternative Methods deal with getting the body out of the acidic state and in to an alkaline one by using nutrition, supplements, chinese herbs etc... which are all very successful as cancer can not live when the body is in the alkaline state.

I sleep well at night knowing my girlfriend cured herself of supposedly terminal cervical cancer: http://www.youtube.com/user/ianjacklin#play/uploads/44/SdqZrcjL7wk, not to mention two other friends that cured prostate and breast cancer with out the toxic effects of chemo, radiation and surgery.

I'm sorry I didn't mean to bother anyone. Just expressing the facts I've come across in hopes it will give people more options to choose from. I know many people that have tried regular western methods only to be told there was nothing else that could be done so go home, get their affairs in order and take their last vacation only to try a good Naturopathic doctor and they are still living. My friend Dr. David Walker is an example: http://www.youtube.com/user/ianjacklin#play/uploads/15/H0jJu-qJKc4

Why does it have to be either/or? When my husband was diagnosed we decided to take advantage of the best 'traditional' medicine had to offer as well as any alternative approaches that MADE SENSE. It is important to do a 'gut' check for sanity on some treatments. Just because it seemed to work for someone on the internet, it might not be right for you. This is hard to do during the emotional newness of a cancer diagnosis and why so many people become victims of con artists and charlatans.
We have beaten the cancer back to 'NED' for 2 years now. That is remarkable for Stage IV nsclc with brain mets. I KNOW that the chemo and radiation killed most of the cancer outright. I suspect that the novena's and the visit to someone with the gift of healing gave Mike the strength to endure the treatments. I suspect our ketogenic diet is starving the cancer and the naturopathic supplements are keeping the immune system strong and maybe killing the cancer cells as well, but I would never consider stopping the Tarceva or skipping the regular follow-up scans.
When Mike was diagnosed, I remembered the story about the man in the flood. He waited on the roof of his house, praying to be saved. As the water was rising he turned down two boats and a helicopter rescue saying 'God will save me.' When he drowned and went to heaven he asked St. Peter why GOD hadn't saved him. St. Peter looked at him quizzically and said, 'He sent two boats and a helicopter'.
We don't know what THE plan is, but we're darn sure we haven't turned away any of our rescue boats.

If that is your choice, then that's your choice, but don't try to make people think they did the wrong thing after they already did it. You know what I mean!!!
I had very agressive chemo, and, yes, it made me sick and it was toxic, but I can guarantee you I wouldn't be alive without it or I would be in very bad shape. I believe in what I did, and I'm sure other people on here do as well. My tumor shrunk 80 percent from chemo, then was removed. The first thing I thought of after diagnosis was get to Sloan or another cancer hospital. Alos, everybody tried to sell me stuff, like juice from Brazil, all kinds of stuff. Yeah, I just might take an herb or drink a juice that I have no clue where it came from, not FDA approved......oh, by the way..... it was sold on a periamid basis.
Good nutrition is very important, but does it cure cancer? I know Asian people in Sloan that never smoked, always ate very very healthy stuff and they had lung cancer stage iv. Who knows??????
Karen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCIoAGdHNPg

Ian, how much is the film?

I wanted to thank you for bringing to my attention that there are many people that did not know about all the options for dealing with degenerative diseases. And many like yourself may already be in the middle of treatment. I will try to present information with that in mind.

With that being said I also must say that I also know people that chemo has worked for. My bottom line is there is no silver bullet so it's of utmost imortance for one to gather all the info they can on the subject and not leave it in the hands of their Doctors. And I'll tell you this that it's of my opinion a good part of healing is a positive and powerful state of mind. Every respectable doctor I've talked to whether it be Western or Alternative all agree that disease is a mind and body thing. I've had two friends die and they followed the book on alternative medicine and were being guided by top notch Naturopaths. The one had never gotten over her divorce and died of breast cancer. Which if you talk to Naturopathic doctors they have noticed many women that get it usually have some problems with there husband or partner. I'm sure battling cancer is tough enough let alone if you also have a broken heart. And the other friend was so negative about everything I don't think he would have lasted as long as he did if it weren't for his wife making him stick to the protocol. So again there are no silver bullets but there is much information out there that the average person would not know due to the FDA/Big Pharma pretty much running what our doctors are taught and legally able to use. It's a sad commentary on our society that the ones in charge of the ones that care for us are profit based. Just my opinion of course. Godspeed.

Thank you Day Place for bringing that up. I must learn to be more diplomatic when I present such information. I should use the term Complementary Medicine as one should use everything that works for them. I apologize for coming off just pro-alternative. I guess it's because knowing what I know and the many, many people that have taken care of cancer with the less invasive and toxic natural therapies is much smaller in number than the people who lost loved ones to the disease who only knew about Western Medicine. One of the saddest just died recently. He had fast growing melanoma and had it surgically removed. Unfortunately Western medicine isn't allowed to use "Blood Root" which is a black salve that the Indians used to use and has pretty much a 100% success rate as it takes the roots as well not just the surface. He came to me just before he died as the cancer had come back and spread everywhere. He then tried the alternative which worked for a while but when he strayed from the strict regiment of diet and supplements to keep the body in the alkaline state he soon died. His wife thanked me and told me she wished they would have listened in the first place. It was very sad.

Merylee

I'm not here to sell my film and as a matter of fact give it for free if one is struggling. And this forum doesn't want me talking about it. If you google me we can correspond outside of this venue but I have a sneaking suspition that you are just going to belittle me as someone trying to capitalize on others misery of which I would take offense to. I made the film with absolutely no investment. It was just blood sweat and tears, a camera and a home computer. And of course the desire to tell the world something they may not know about. Heck when I was shooting the film I expected to prove alternative medicine to be quackery and wrong. I couldn't believe that our leaders would allow Big Pharma to be in cahoots with the AMA and only allow drugs, radiation and surgery to treat cancer and nothing else. Unfortunately that turned out to be the case.

Dayplace,
Great Post! Just sums it up....


Merrylee,
This post isn't posted from the same person who posted the "Host" post is it?

Thanks, Holly

By the way the title of this post is: "Chemo has 3% success rate so why not research Alternative Methods?

Interesting reaction to this title. I'm still in production for icurecancer.com part II so if anyone has interesting things for me to think about in shooting it please feel free to let me know. The i in icurecancer is you or whom ever is battling the disease. And I make movies for you not just myself so need input. It's about how people are curing themselves of cancer using Alternative Medicine. The reason I'm making it is because I already know what to expect from the doctor. Chemo, radiation and surgery.

This film is teaching me all the other stuff out there. You can learn a lot about life being in the right place and the right time and meet that right person. I do this with this topic and get to look in to the soul of ones eyes while speaking to them and try to on the camera as well.

I once took a poll on one of my sites and asked the question, "What means more to you when making decisions? Clinical studies or testimonials? And I was surprised to hear most say testimonials! I realized that I wasn't the only one that questioned the vulnerability of a statistic study knowing that Drug companies are paying for them. They too looked in to the eyes of someone that cured themselves of cancer many years ago and ask them how they did it. One in particular my friend Bill Henderson author of a great cancer selfhealers book that I guess I can't mention in this blog but anyway: He lost his wife to cancer back in the days where Alternative Medicine was not known about like it is today. That put him on a path and thanks to him learning about the powers of Alkalinity over Acidosis and the toxic effects of current procedures has helped literally thousands of people over the years. Is there a double blind study done on the people he helped? Of course not as you can't patent natural things so there is no money for testing. But when I look in to the eye of someone who was cured by alternative methods with out the suffering and can tell in my heart they aren't lying to me I seriously consider what they are saying.

For instance I know testicular cancer and blood cancers do have around a 35% success rate with chemo so I would definitely consider that and weigh it with my other options. Just like I know if I put Blood Root on my skin cancer it will probably help. I've already met others that have done this and it went away for good. So my answer to the post's question would be I would explore alternative.

Again any concepts, ideas or stories that could be interesting for my film on either side of the fence please feel free.

peace
ian jacklin

I believe in the book, "Anti-Cancer, A New Way of Life", by David Servan-Scheiber, M.D., Ph.D. He is a 15+ years brain cancer survivor and espouses conventional treatment WITH changes in diet, exercise, meditation, etc.

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