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Hey, I was just wondering if anyone has heard of this or used it?
My husband's uncle brought some info over on it tonight but we have never heard of it before.
Apparently you can use it with chemo, but I know my husband's Dr. would never approve. And we would be to scared to do anything the Dr. did not approve of.
Just wondering if any of you have any suggestions on it.
Thanks,
Tina
Cancer Surgery Confusion Multiple sclerosis Chemotherapy Lung cancer Hypothyroidism Folic acid
He should be scared of anything the doctor doesn't approve. Mixing chemo with some things is and can be deadly. Chemo is a powerful poison and shouldn't be played with only if you know what your doing.
Talk to your husband's doctor about it. It's nice that his Uncle is trying to help, but sometimes these things are far from helpful.
Good luck,
Connie
13 year lc survivor of Adenocarcinoma stage IIIB.
I found this statement (below) on a PAW PAW article on the web. I ALWAYS TELL cancer patients, BUYER BEWARE and ALWAYS TELL YOUR DOCTOR what your DOING!
Connie
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This web page contains extensive information about alternative cancer treatment Paw Paw. Much of this information cannot be supplied by a Paw Paw distributor or manufacturer due to FDA regulations. All information is free and kept updated. Contact information of distributors is also provided for current price information.
These Treatments are Different
You cannot pick an alternative cancer treatment the same way you pick your other medications. Despite the enthusiastic claims of well meaning people:
* Just because Paw Paw worked for someone else, that does not mean it will work for you.
* Even though there are many viable alternative cancer treatments, there isn't a "best" treatment for a certain type or stage of cancer.
* Most alternative cancer treatments only work on a minority of the people who try it.
A person's unique body chemistry seems to be the most important consideration in selecting an alternative cancer treatment. Only energy medicine offers a selection method that takes body chemisrty into account.
Don't know anything about the alleged medicinal benefits of the paw paw, but do know they are a tree, and that there is a town near me named Paw Paw, WV!!
Dr. Jerry McLaughlin at the University of Purdue did over 25 years of research on Paw Paw's effects on cancer. If you're interested in finding out what he had to say about it, there is a series of videos at YouTube called "Paw Paw & Cancer: From Discovery to Clinical Trials." Check it out and see for yourself what the world expert on the subject has to say. Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8CKs5S74v8
This is very fascinating information and is presented by a very qualified and respected scientist from one of the most well-respected universities in our country. He's certainly no quack - that's for sure.
Tracey
Paw Paw is great... Works wonderful with Chemo.
I take Low dose Naltrexone which works with chemo also ( I only take alternatives) as conventional meds. failed. but I add Paw Paw as well.
Low cost, Non toxic and safe...
Dee
http://www.ldn4cancer.com
http://alternativecancer.us/pawpaw.htm
http://www.pawpawresearch.com/
The audio and video links are here ( let me know if you have any trouble with the links):
http://pawpaw.tv/Disc_selection_page.asp
Should only be ordered from Nature's Sunshine:
http://www.healthy-sunshine.com/paw-paw-cell-reg.asp
I had my husband on Paw Paw for almost 3 years alone with Tarciva, the Tarciva quick working so we went to IV chemo- Gemsi and carbo-didnt' work and they didn't want him on anything else so we stopped the paw paw--now he is on Pemetrexed and they still don't want any natural things other than one multi with folic acid in it. If this one does not show improvement I'm going to put him back on the paw paw. Have any of your doctors taken you off of the natural things? Why? Shirley
How did the paw paw work with your chemo? What did your doctor say about using it with chemo? Shirley
Why Paw Paw is effective with chemo:
Paw Paw extract contains (among other active ingredients) acetogenins which modulate the production of ATP** in mitochondria of cancer cells. This reduces the growth of blood vessels that nourish cancer cells. It also inhibits the growth of MDR (multiple drug resistance) cells. No other alternative or conventional cancer treatment (except treatments from trees similar to Paw Paw) has shown any effectiveness against MDR cells.
Paw Paw is a cousin of the graviola, guanabana, and soursop trees. However, the acetogenins extracted from Paw Paw are more active against cancer than those extracted from these other sources.
Fruit of the Paw Paw Tree
Multiple Drug Resistant Cells
Most tumors contain a small percentage, approximately 2%, of multiple drug-resistant cells (MDR cells). Chemo is not effective against these cells. After the first round of chemo, if the chemo is effective, all of the cells that are not MDR, are destroyed. Since this accounts for the vast majority of the tumor mass, the tumor will appear to be effectively destroyed. However, the MDR cells remain and start to multiply. Eventually, a new tumor is formed that is entirely MDR. The next time chemo is used, none of the cells will be destroyed because they are all MDR. Paw Paw and Graviola are the only cancer treatment that have shown effectiveness against MDR cells.
http://alternativecancer.us/pawpaw.htm
Traceyred
Thanks for the link to the Paw Paw series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8CKs5S74v8
(9 vids but oh so worth the time)
I have been trying to get this information for a couple years. The people with the DVD would not send it to me, probably 'cause I am not a Dr.
I am a survivor of 10 years and if I had known this research exhisted in Feb 1999 I would probably have avoided (a life changing) surgery. [Prostate, beyond the margins, so a follow-up of radiation.]
I did not realize this was a lung cancer site when I joined however as we are all in this gig together please don't cast me aside.
The "big C", as some call it, has to have a cure and I believe Paw Paw is a cure. The proof is in the pudding and here is what the Pharmaceuticals are afraid of, as it doesn't make them money. It's NATURAL! Where is the patent? Oh Oh.
Most Dr.s who don't believe in alternatives will immediately say, NO! Mine didn't hesitate, "NO". There is a reason for that.
Surgery, Radiation or Chemo. (Knife, Shotgun or Poison) gets rid of varmints.
Most get subsudized/reimbursed etc for using the branded regular/standard treatments. "There's money in them there hills." Merk, Pfiser, Lilly, the rest of the "big boys" of course have the vested interest to stop the alternative meds. (you may even have some stock left there.) The NCI gets pressured, so 28 years of Paw Paw research [5 mil.] gets swept under the rug .
Thank God it didn't stay there.
If you believe in something, use it, THE SECOND OPINION, with the information provided, in this case there are contra indications with some things ie.(Q-10)
Believe you can win the battle with Cancer, choose the time (now), place (where ever you are) and the weapon or tool (Paw Paw has been proven better than most any other alternative, they just can't say it because of the FDA, but I'm a nobody and I can say it.)
For my Lung Cancer surviving friends, Dr Alan Orschner, (Tulane U.) said in the 1950's, "Where Pleasure is concerned, Reason goes out the Window."
Prevention is the best of medicine, (save the kids) for those of us who are not so fortunate, take an informed stand.
You can still win. You just might even beat the odds by 20-30 years
In the words of Red Skelton, "G.. B...."
Thanks again, Traceyred
The only "natural" supplements are the ones that occur in nature when the foods you eat are growing.
Everything else is manufactured.
I don't have lung cancer or any type of cancer for that matter, but someone near and dear to me has another form of cancer, which is how I came to be on this site, and I have some information which I believe will help answer your question. I posted the (admittedly lengthy) answer below to another question about Paw Paw, and I'll repost it here and elsewhere - if pertinent - in the hope that it will help someone else. I didn't mean to make the post so long, but I didn't want to risk leaving out anything important - treating cancer is a life-and-death situation, and our best weapon against it is knowledge. I hope this helps!:
I know this is kind of an old post, but I just wanted to say that I've done some pretty intensive and extensive internet research on the scientific studies of annonaceous acetogenins found in asimina triloba (American Paw Paw), and it is extremely effective and useful. It targets cells which use high levels of energy - cancer cells use 10 to 17 times the amount of energy of normal cells - and shuts down most of their energy production by decreasing ATP, which is an energy-producing nucleotide created in the mitochondria of all cells in your body (including cancerous ones). Healthy cells experience only a slight drop in ATP, which still puts them within normal functioning range, so they are almost completely unaffected. Cancer cells begin to starve to death, often in a matter of weeks. However, they should never be taken while pregnant, because the acetogenins could potentially see the developing baby as a high-energy user. There are several other treatments or medications which should not be used with Paw Paw because they can cancel out its effects.
Paw Paw's South American cousin, Graviola (also known as the Brazilian Paw Paw, which can cause some confusion), is also effective in fighting cancer, but Paw Paw is significantly more powerful. The concentration of acetogenins varies widely from grove to grove, and is at its highest (and most potent) during May and June. Nature's Sunshine, which worked closely with Dr. McLaughlin until his retirement a few years ago, is the only company which standardizes the concentration of acetogenins in each Paw Paw extract pill. Other companies also sell Paw Paw extract, but the amount of acetogenins in each pill can differ tremendously. I ordered a four-month supply of Paw Paw Cell Reg from this company after learning recently that my father-in-law was diagnosed with terminal metastatic colon cancer which has spread to his liver and stomach. All of the research I've done on alternative cancer treatments has been in an attempt to find something that will save the life of someone who has been like a second father to me, so I've made every effort to check and double-check and triple-check my information on every treatment I've looked into; he doesn't have enough time left for me to make a mistake, so I've read practically every available article, journal, and study done on Paw Paw. (I just realized that I sound like I'm boasting, but I promise I'm not, I'm just offering my humble "credentials" of knowledge on the subject.) He has only been taking Paw Paw for two weeks, but just informed me yesterday evening that he has already had two of his more minor symptoms abruptly disappear.
The National Institute of Health (NIH) began funding research by Dr. Jerry McLaughlin into the active agents in Paw Paw back in 1976. The findings were extraordinary - one acetogenin alone was discovered to be 10,000 times (yes, that's the correct number of zeroes) more effective than a commonly-used chemotherapy drug. Numerous other tests have been conducted into Paw Paw since then, and, although it has no known side effects aside from nausea (if taken without food), vomiting (if you take too much), and itching or rash (in less than 1% of cases), it has never been permitted in clinical trials. In the 1990's, the NIH ended up spending several years and countless dollars trying to find a way to make a synthetic version of Paw Paw (you cannot patent natural products, only synthetic ones), but were unsuccessful. Unable to produce a man-made version (for which they then could have charged exorbitant prices; the natural product is very cheap and easy to obtain), they gave up, published an internal report (i.e. never released to the public), and closed their Research and Development into PawPaw. Somebody developed a conscience though, and later leaked the information. It has been researched by various countries ever since, and there is currently a project under way in China to do the same thing the NIH was trying to do here in the U.S. fifteen years ago - synthesize Paw Paw. You can view the report here: Recent progress on the total synthesis of acetogenins from Annonaceae
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2633664/
Something to consider when searching for treatments or cures for cancer - In 1994, 7.51 billion dollars were spent on chemotherapy, but I have no idea of what the figure is nowadays because that information was very difficult to locate. I'd imagine it's a lot more now. Studies on the efficacy of chemotherapy also show an approximate cure rate (not "go into remission and come back out in a few years" rate, but actual cure rate) of 7% (yes, seven, not seventeen, not seventy, just seven). However, chemotherapy and radiation are the only treatments with the FDA's stamp of approval, regardless of the fact that a number of other treatments have been shown to have a much higher success rate (without the side effects of chemo). Chemotherapy is a multi-billion dollar earner for the pharmaceutical companies. What do you think would happen to all that money if someone were to come up with a cure (or even a cheap, effective treatment) for cancer? I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any means, but I believe in logic and facts and reality, and I think that anyone with any illness, including cancer, should keep in mind that pharmaceutical companies do not make money off of healthy people. They are in the business of treating sick people. Incidentally, people keep getting sicker every year. Cancer rates are through the roof - approximately one in every four Americans will develop cancer at some point in his or her life, and the number continues to rise. In 1930, that number was something like one in one thousand. In 2000, the U.S. was #9 in the world for cancer deaths, compared to #20 in the early 1980's. It's not a coincidence, people.
As far as being afraid to do anything your doctor doesn't approve of, I understand the concern, but here's something else to consider: Doctors (including oncologists) who practice conventional medicine are not allowed to recommend or prescribe a treatment that is not approved by the FDA. If they do, and someone finds out, they could potentially lose their medical license. Not to mention that, despite their years of training and education and, often, advanced intellects, they are still human, and, like most of us, generally believe what they are told. If they are told all through medical school and beyond that there is no other viable treatment for cancer, they will not hesitate to pass that information along as fact, nor to disregard as quackery any potential treatment that does not have the approval of the FDA, no matter how effective it has been proven to be or how well-documented its studies are. A third consideration is that oncologists, like the pharmaceutical companies, are in the business of treating sick people, and their main tool is chemotherapy. They aren't exactly making minimum wage, and would stand to lose a great deal of money if they started advising their patients to forgo chemotherapy and try elsewhere for something cheaper and more effective. It would be financially counterintuitive. Also, according to a 1997 survey, approximately one-third of medical personnel (including oncologists) would not take chemotherapy themselves if they were diagnosed with cancer. The survey details can be viewed here: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11782740/Would-Oncologists-Want-Chemotherapy-If -They-Had-Non-Small-Cell Although that number is down from the 84% who would refuse chemotherapy back in 1985 and the 73% who would decline it in 1987, it's still pretty significant and says something about individuals who will make it their life's work to treat sick people with a therapy so dangerous that they themselves would not use it.
If anyone would like any additional information (I have lots more info on various alternative treatments, as well as other topics regarding cancer, multiple sclerosis, and hypothyroidism, but I decided to cut it short to spare those who were getting sick of reading this post) or would like to share information of their own, please feel free to email me at meg072983@yahoo.com. My name is Megan and I would be very happy to talk to you.
I have to agree with you Granny.
I have never heard of Paw Paw. But there are lotsa things I haven't heard of.
I really don't like Chemo either !! I did the Chemo and it is a good poison and it does the job killing cells good ones and bad ones.
I am still hear after three and a half years. Maybe the Chemo worked .It did make me feel like ----- if that is what they call working it did the Job.
I think if I recall pretty much all our cures come from one kinda tree or plant .
One of the biggest cures we have going for us is our minds.
But I never had much of a mind so that is probably why I have cancer in the first place.
Greg
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