187 Fake Cancer Cures To Avoid

• By timtak
• Posted September 24, 2008 at 2:05 pm

I am sure that the above list is authorative. All the same, here is a paper arguing that Green Tea (not "New Sun Green Tea" whatever that is) may help in combination with tamoxifen
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16785249?dopt=Abstract

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• By Colin5398
• Posted September 24, 2008 at 3:11 pm

IP6 too my wife swears by it although you never know what is working which is why the companies are able to remain in business all the best Colin

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• By vh
• Posted September 24, 2008 at 3:16 pm

I think they're only on "the list" because of they have advertised as a "cure". It's not to say they can't help.

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• By Bette_Tx
• Posted September 24, 2008 at 5:12 pm

Yes they are listed as 'fake' cures for cancer. Some of these companies are making a fortune with their claim as a cure for cancer with these products.

Some are beneficial for other purposes - I've taken melatonin to help me sleep. I also am a great believer in green tea. It boost our immune system. The combination of some of these supplements with chemo might be risky .. just make sure your oncologist is aware of any other products you are taking. Mine wanted to know if I was taking even Tylenol ...

Bette

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• By togglea2
• Posted November 13, 2008 at 10:23 am

Dear Bette Tx:

I would never tell anyone to not take chemo. That is a personal choice. I chose not too. Doesn't it make some of you folks wonder why 73% to 75% of all Oncologist won't do it either. I have Stage IV Non-Hodgkins B-Cell Lymphoma in "ALL" my lymphnodes and over 40% Bone Marrow 5 years now.
The FDA can say what they want to about Alternatives. To them and the pharmaceuticals it's all about the money. Just look "how many times the "FDA" has been wrong about many of the very Drugs they have okayed. They also have killed hundreds of thousand of people with these very drugs. The truth "also" is they don't "CURE" Cancer either. We all have Cancer cells in our bodies, but it is the "Immune System" that cures it.
A lot of these natural products you have to take with a grain of salt I grant you, but a lot of these products will strengthen your Immune System. None of us use any commonsense until we get sick or at least see someone we love fight for their lives. Then we might wake up and start thinking about our own health.
I do a lot of supplements myself and have no regrets on the money I have spent. It has been a whole lot cheaper than chemo and radiation and my quality of life has never been better. I still work full-time. I take no medication of any kind and Lord willing I will see all 5 of my grandkids grown and my 1st great Grand child next April 2009. I don't say any of this to discourage anyone, but to hopefully encourage others to take charge of their own and use Conventional Doctors when absolutely necessary. Doctors don't cure anything. They only "diagnose" and "Treat" the symptoms.
I am not a Doctor, but I would recommend "Essiac Tea" to anyone. I have given a list of the things I have been doing to my Oncologist (who I just see for Blood Work every 6 months) I have given him this information 3 times. When I was first diagnosed and refused Chemo he told my wife and I that he had only seen 2 people go the route I was going and that they were miserable failures. After coming up a protocol for myself I let them Scan me and do Blood work 4 months later. My oncologist came into the room reading all the results shaking his head. He said" Dale, I don't know what you done, but you have stabilized this." I had to bite my tongue. I wanted to say so bad that it wasn't chemo was it sir, but I respect him and kept my mouth shut. I haven't looked back.
And I don't care what anyone says on this forum about using sugar, I would avoid it like the plague. Cancer cells feed on sugar because they are aneorobic cells and need the quick energy. That is why they use it in Petscan and CT scans. Cancer cells uptake the Glucose (a simple sugar) 15 times faster than Normal Cells.
I realize I am blessed beyond measure and don't take my cancer lightly, but I am also a child of God and have a peace about this. Win or Lose I still win. In the end that is "ALL" that matters anyway folks. I wish everyone on these forums well.

Sincerely,
Dale

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• By stage4survivor
• Posted November 13, 2008 at 10:46 am

I'm a strict adherent to the seefood diet! I see food and eat it.

The only "positives", I don't drink or take meds, save ASA for old joints.

Go figure? If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself.....Naaaa....prolly not

G

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• By amymaura
• Posted November 13, 2008 at 11:20 am

Hi Dale,

I'm just curious where you found the statistic that 73-75% of oncologists would do chemotherapy? It just isn't consistent with the thoughts of oncologists I know. I'm also curious about your statement that we all have cancer cells in our bodies. Can you tell me where you got that information as well?

There has indeed been a LOT of interest in strengthening the immune system to fight cancer, and many clinical trials that are showing great promise. And I agree that not nearly enough study has gone into complementary and alternative medicines. After all, most of the medicines on the market today came from a natural source, so anyone who says nature can't cure is mistaken.

Different things work for different people, and if something on the list works for you, great. But everyone needs to be sure that your docs know what you are taking. Though, unfortunately, some doctors are more knowledgeable about these supplements than others. But some supplements really can be harmful - especially in high doses - or can interact with medicines you are taking. For example, some supplements can change the way your body metabolizes medicines. I was on a drug once and was told that I should not eat grapefruit or grapefruit products while taking it because it changed the way my body absorbed it. How weird!

And for anyone who is interested, this is what Dr. Weil, who is really into natural remedies, says about Essiac Tea: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA400157

Amy
LCA

PS - I just noticed that Dr. Weil has an interesting looking "anti-inflammatory food pyramid." This isn't a plug, but for people who are interested, check it out: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/PAG00361/anti-inflammatory-food-pyramid.html

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• By Bette_Tx
• Posted November 13, 2008 at 11:23 am

Hi Dale,
I agree to that no one should tell a cancer patient not to take chemo. It is a personal decision between the cancer patient and their doctor.

Since I posted this list, I have bought the book titled 'Anticancer - A new Way Of Life' by Dr. David Servan-Schreiber. He is a MD, PhD, and did alot of research in cancer treatments. When he himself was diagnosed with a brain tumor followed by a relapse of another tumor in the very same area, he began to look for alternative treatments. He had surgery both times to remove the tumor. Chemo was recommended the second time but he began research into why people in other countries especially Asian people have a lower percentage of cancer than the US.

He found scientific research documents that showed some foods help fight cancer. Even if a person already had cancer, these foods might prevent a relapse.

He discussed the diet with his oncologist (who looked at him like it was crazy) but said it wouldn't hurt to try the diet along with traditional medical treatment. Dr. Schrieber has lived 15 years since his first brain tumor diagnosis, being on this diet since his last relapse when his diagnosis was poor.

None of the above supplements were listed other than the curcumin but he did stress organic food if you can find it (milk, beef, eggs) - certain veggies, fruites, and green tea, less red meat, less sweets, more fish and organic poultry, whole grain bread, brown rice instead of white, etc.

After reading his book, I've become very conscious of my poor diet. I'm going to try these foods -they are healthy for us whether they prevent a reoccurence of cancer or not. I know I am very guilty of eating too many sweets and that is not good for anyone whether they have cancer or not.

Bette -next CTscan due in January

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• By togglea2
• Posted November 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm

Hey Amy: I respect Dr. Weil and visit his site often. But I still in the end have to decide what works for me.
From what I have read about Essiac and Rene Caisse the Canadian Parliament came within 2 votes of trying to patent her formula. She supposedly cure many diseases with her Essiac Formula, not just Cancer.
I buy the 4 recommended herbs in bulk form that she used and also added 2 more herbs. Montana Yew and Red Clover. I have had no bad side effects that I know of. I have been taking this for over 4 years and will continue the rest of my life.
Of course everyone has Cancer Cells in their body. Cancer cells are just mutated cells and we "all" have "some" of those but our Killer cells and macrophages take cure of these up to a point. When our Immune systems get compromised by a combination of many things, Standard American Diet (SAD) food dyes, insecticides, chlorine, hormones, steroids, etc. Then this will cause cells to go bad.
As far as the percentage of Oncologists that "will not" do chemo I forget where I read the Statistical Survey that produced those results.
I used to list my own personal website (of which I said were no advertisements on it) which listed my protocol for battling cancer but was told I could not do that, so now I don't.
Sorry about your Mom.

Sincerely,
Dale

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• By amymaura
• Posted November 13, 2008 at 12:36 pm

Hi Dale,

I stand corrected about the cancer cells. My understanding was that there are constantly mutations in the body and that the immune system catches them before they become cancerous, but you are correct. We frequently have cancerous cells circulating that the immune system catches before they develop into tumors and cause problems.

A lot of the current research on targeted therapies and vaccines have to do with strengthening the immune system. We are in the process of printing and mailing our annual summary of the ASCO findings, and all three of the vaccines that looked promising have to do with triggering the immune response. I really hope more research goes into this area! And certainly healthy eating and living can do nothing but help!

Amy

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• By Toddy
• Posted November 13, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Thank you Bette, very timely.

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• By Alisa
• Posted November 14, 2008 at 10:59 am

Many of those products on this list are snake oil and possibly dangerous, but others are very good supplements.

Again, nothing is a cure, but there's much research on curcumin, for example, and IP6 is an excellent product, as well as some others. And if any of the tea mix is chinese herbs, with reishi, astragalus and some others, it's excellent for lung cancer patients. There's research on melantonin and cancer. Resveratrols/grape seed extracts, etc.

In my opinion, this list is too general.
Not one thing is a cure - no pharmaceutical (chemo/targeted therapies) nor nutraceutical (supplments) but there are things we can do for ourselves to be proactice, and nutrition and supplements under proper guidance is one of them.

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• By LTLCS
• Posted November 14, 2008 at 11:13 am

Thanks Bette for all your hard work in putting this information together. I always say: BUYER BEWARE!

Somethings may help Some people, and those same things may cause havoc on someone else. Some of these things are just money makers.

Thanks again Bette,
Connie

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