Ok a neat person on here wrote a reply to one of my journal entries and talked about vibration thearapy or something like that. Well I got an idea sitting and thinking about it. Now at therapy they use one of those vibrators on Matthew's legs called a Magic Wand. It is a neat to watch because when she stimulates Matt's leg with it he can get a good amount of movement in his leg pushing it out and pulling it back. Well last night after reading about this therapy with vibration I decided to play Mad scientist with my son. I have a full body Massage pad. Not those ones with the moving balls in them that hurt.. this just vibrates from head to toe and has heat but we didn't use that. I put the pad on his bed and he transfered onto it. He smiled and laughed at his bodies response to the vibrations and then he said look at my feet mom. He said now watch. from left to right he could move the top portion of his feet bending them down and back in short controled movements I turned the vibrations off and he could only get a little movement on the right toe.. again I turned on the vibrations and he was able to make these controlled movements again. We shared this at therapy today and they said that the vibration theory was debunked.. don't work... But we got it to work... and will keep doing it. We will also show them that it works.... Matt only had one complaint and that is after awhile it started to get anoying the vibration on his upper back. So we turned that level off. Anyone else ever try this?
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Testing Vibration Pad
- By angelbrd67
- Posted June 26, 2009 at 3:33 pm · 4 replies
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- By Learning1
- Posted June 27, 2009 at 12:45 pm
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It is great to see that the concept of vibration (using a slightly different device, but which seems to have much of the same principle) seems to get results, and in a way that I had not heard of before. I forget what I've mentioned where. The British experiment with magnetic pulse therapy on the skull, which seemed to stimulate the body very similar to physiotherapy, I suspect was the trigger thought?
If a regular vibration mat does much of the same thing, there may be with an overlap between what is stimulated using vibration plate technology. The exercise physiologist who suggested the use of a vibration plate with SCI (vibration plates of the type he referred to are traditionally designed to stand on or sit on) suggested that using one should help most people with SCI. Because he works outside the normal treatment methods, and as a result outside normal insurance funding for treatment, people who come to him often look for quick results, and as much as we'd like it to be quick, typical SCI improvement is a long term process. The vibration plate sounds like it one of the therapy methods he uses which actually gets the most immediate results. From his work with it, it sounds like his focus with the device, for those with SCI, was two fold:
1. Somehow the vibration plate helps to work on the muscles and muscle atrophy, very similar to a lot of the exercise and physiotherapy methods do. For example, he suggested both putting the feet on the plate when sitting beside it (to get feet and legs stimulated and moving), and sitting on it, getting as much into an exercise type position as the person can with their injury. And also experimenting to see what else might work to help stimulate the muscles to prevent atrophy, etc. This can apparently help even before the area involved seems to be receiving signals through the injured area.
2. The other potential is the stimulation it provides, similar to what physiotherapy does. Somehow, in at least some situations, stimulation and getting the body moving, helps to either stimulate dormant neurons to wake up, or stimulate the body to get bridges built across existing neurons so it is able to communicate.
- By Globalwoundcare
- Posted June 28, 2009 at 9:43 am
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I originally join this site to help. Learning 1, I never thought I would be learning as much as I am.
Together we are better, thank you.
- By angelbrd67
- Posted June 28, 2009 at 1:51 pm
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We never stop learning, and this site has been a world of information and a wonderful place to come together for support. Every Journal and reply gives people like us, with a new injury comfort...It is hard to explain but it is like having a million hands to hold onto when your really scared, you can look back and know your not alone.
Together we are better... Thank You Everyone!
- By Learning1
- Posted June 28, 2009 at 5:33 pm
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I ran across the site looking for some ideas that would help a friend with a T11-T12 (complete), from when a tree fell on him 5 years ago. Then I saw a few places where information I had run across in looking for ideas for my friend, and also principles I had learned in the area of energy medicine (lasers, scenars, etc) might be able to help some SCI sitations, so I began to share what I've learned of the principles, and what I've run across in doing the research to help my friend.
Traditional medicine, which is there to help and support to the extent they can, seems to have its limitations when it comes to SCI situations. Anything that can be learned outside the traditional realms which can help seems to be a bonus, since it looks like it will be years before alternatives become a regular consideration by main stream medicine due to the cost of most studies, and the number of studies needed (if funding can even be found to properly study these alternatives).
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