SARCOIDOSIS and DEPRESSION

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I've wanted to write a journal about this topic for so long, but then again, it's just so darn, DEPRESSING!

Every time I research or even broach the correlation of Sarcoidosis and Depression, I read the same statistic. "More than half of patients with Sarcoidosis are depressed." No kidding. So shocking. This is such a fun disease to have.

I'm always wondering, "what came first, the chicken or the egg"? Maybe they arrived here at the same time!


As I told all of you in a previously posted journal, I am clinically depressed and was finally diagnosed with major depressive disorder, severe. This was when I finally could get the nerve to get off my butt and seek psychiatric care.

In my defense, please don't forget that I was recovering from major lung surgery, confined to bed rest and not even able to drive. It was also necessary for me to be on heavy pain medication.

I finally made an appointment with a psychiatrist after about two months of waking from a sound sleep, and sobbing uncontrollably in my husband's arms practically every night of the week.

I had a disease I knew nothing about. I had to sleep sitting up, as I had an incision running down the right side of my back. I knew I was scarred for life and would never feel comfortable in a bathing suit again. I was finally coming to the realization that I probably had had an unnecessary surgery, and I wanted the middle lobe of my right lung back.

The long term ramifications of this could last for the rest of my life. I had a terrible taste of what post traumatic stress feels like. I felt maimed by the heartless physicians who had convinced me to have the operation, a lung surgery to diagnose Sarcoidosis. C'mon docs, want to take another look at all those medical volumes you so proudly line your bookshelves with?

My psychiatrist saved my life and even helped me to regain the coping skills I needed in order to learn how to live and laugh again. I am still in therapy with her to this day. I will also be on medication for the rest of my life, because I have an illness, a mental illness.

She is also a physician who believes that Sarcoidosis causes depression in otherwise mentally well people. In other words, the patient is not necessarily depressed because they are diagnosed with Sarcoid, but rather this disease may be in your lungs, lymph nodes, or your big toe, but as long as it resides in your body, it's also busy (in some patients, not all), messing with your brain chemistry.

I read somewhere, I can't recall where at the present time, that there is a high prevalence of depression being reported in patients who have Sarcoidosis and that they should be carefully assessed for signs of depression.

Now we all know as patients, that the medical community does not seem to be frantically searching for a cure to this somewhat rare disease. Are we to believe that our treating physicians are fretting over whether we are depressed or not? Let's get real.

I'm a professional depressive, my illness now controlled by a few medications that have profoundly changed my life for the better.

My life experiences have given me the ability to see myself in some of you. I'm not claiming 100% accuracy here but just by reading some of your journals and discussions, I can see you are suffering from depression. If you've never been depressed till your Sarcoidosis diagnosis, it could very well be that it's that sarc-depression combo. Two diseases combined in one.

The people who still attach a stigma to mental illness are small minded, ignorant idiots. I mean that's my real name up there and I am not ashamed to admit to any of you that Sarcoidosis is not my only battle. My depression is a separate disease now under control.

I write this so that none of you suffer in this way. You don't need to tell the world, but you do need to seek "GOOD" professional help. Only a psychiatrist can write prescriptions, so this is who you need to see first.

PLEASE NOTE : If you have a good Primary Care Physician and I mean GOOD, you can obtain all the help you need there, including any prescription medication your Dr. deems necessary, with the exception of the talk therapy that I receive from my psychiatrist. I'm not the type of person who would go to GROUP. I consider all of you to be : "MY GROUP"

Previous paragraph added on: 4/27/08


I've left you a few book titles & the authors' names in a recent journal. Reading the two books that I suggested about depression and stress bringing on disease will help you to see better inside yourself.

I'm convinced that you cannot be depressed and fight this disease successfully. It hurts too badly to feel so much sorrow. Life throws a lot of crap your way. If you even suspect you're depressed, get some help. There is medicine for this and it isn't Prednisone!

I'm here if you need me to help. Be Happy... JanetG

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Dear JanetGrant,

Jut want to thank you for all your posts, they are informative and thoughtfully written. It helps to have someone with this disease share their story honestly and share their knowlege and where to seek more by giving us websites and books to read. Sometimes with this disease, especially for those who are new to it, it is just so overwhelming that looking for more information is just one more thing that might push one over the edge. Having someone that has already "been" there brings a little comfort to an already stressed situation. I always enjoy your posts.
Cora42

Dear Cora,

Friends like you and the knowledge that I'm helping some people are the reason I continue to write.

Thanks for letting me know and remember, you can always write me here or at my email address if you need any help.
xxoo... Janet

Thank you so much for your posts. God bless you.
I have had sarcoidosis for about 20 years now. About 15 years ago, one doctor i was seeing wanted to give me a broncoscopy to confirm the sarcoidosis. I reluctantly agreed as I have a terrible gag reflex (dental hygenists hate me!). I don't remember it from the drugs, but they were not able to do it as my gag reflex stopped them. Next he wanted me to have a lung biopsy. It was then I balked. There was absolutely no benefit in it. What to get diagnosed with a disease that has no cure, no good treatment other than prednisone and related drugs was no help to me. I refused. I am so glad I did when I here of people coughing up staples and other complications of surgery. Btm line, if non invasive testing can limit the treatment regime down to prednisone like drugs, having surgery to put a name on it does nothing to really benefit any one and is not a wise risk.
I had been doing reasonable well up until this last year with flat line breathing test results. Lat year I was having vocal cord spasms after uncontrollable coughing where i could not inhale for a few seconds. Not a comfortable feeling. I would aslo be hoarse and loose my voice. I read on the internet about larnyx pharnyx reflux and the symptoms. My pulmonary specialist upped my pantoloc to twice a day. That cure all those symptoms. My lungs do seem so much more fragile now. My brathing test is a little lower (about 60%), but my lung specialist thinks it may be a small decline as i age. I am 52.
I find as my lung problems (sarc and asthma) limit my activities more, I find it harder to be positive. i am not depressed, but I could see how it would be easy to become depressed. I find I force myself to remain positive fior my wife and especially for my 11 and 12 year old sons. They should not be paying a price for my problems.
My 2 cents worth.
Again best wishes from Canada. I see you are a Grant also. Standfast - the Grant motto.

Neil Grant

This is really great information Janet. I had those crying spells after every doctor visit, because no one would really listen to me. I was told I was depressed and that was why I did not feel well. I was coughing and hurting. Then finally a pain clinic doctor told me to see my doctor.
I was fine and not depressed until I had to see so many doctors who were idiots, that would not help me.
Wow I do sound bitter. Everyone knows what I mean. But I think all this causes us to be depressed even more.The lost of our jobs and just our way of living is affected by this disease.

Wonderful post, Janet. It's too bad that a stigma can still be attached to depression, keeping many of us from seeking absolutely necessary treatment. But I think we're finally losing that stigma, although maybe not fast enough. Yes, everyone, if you have been depressed or in a funk for more than two weeks it's very important that you seek help. It's easier than ever now, with the internet, to look up the symptoms of depression and decide if you should see your doctor. Do it not only for yourselves, but for your loved ones, too.

Michele

Depression! I'm not sure if that's what I feel, although as you all know, some days I do get down and stop smiling for a while. Today is one of those days. Hubby can be very cruel sometimes, his words are quite harsh, and usually for no reason at all, he has gone out now, working, but I asked him something this morning and he turned it round to sound as though i was nagging him. Then when I tried to tell him what I was trying to say, he talked AT me and would not let me speak so, as usual, I shut up. On these days, and I am ashamed to say this, but I find myself hating him. I am again tearful, but will be picking up my daughter in law and grand-daughter shortly so will have to put that smile back on my face. Depression? maybe but perhaps I want more from life and not spend the rest of my days feeling like crap and being talked down to. Well, I'm off out now to collect the family - keep smiling!!! Sorry to burden you all with my off days, perhaps soon I will have a good day - a real good day. x

Dear Neil,

Thank you for your letter and God bless you, too.

Canadian drugs and American drugs are basically the same, but sometimes marketed under different names.

I, admittedly, had to look up pantoloc. This medication is sold under the name Protonix in the US and is generally prescribed for the treatment of GERD, also known as acid reflux. Is this what you're describing to me?

Gerd was my first symptom indicating to me that something was not right. After and sometimes during a meal, I felt like I was ingesting Jet fuel (pun intended, referencing my previous occupation). My doctor prescribed Protonix and it did not touch my agony.

Next we moved on to Nexium, (esomeprazole), another proton pump inhibitor. I felt immediate relief, but the effects of the drug would not last the entire day @ normal dosing, which is one 40 mg tablet per day. My doctor then prescribed one 40 mg tablet every 12 hours and that did the trick. By the way, Nexium was the last medication available to me. I had tried every prescription and over the counter drug medication available in the US, that I know of, and even my doctor was frustrated till I went on the Nexium. I take it till this day and it continues to provide me with incredible relief. Success.

I have a very dear friend who is very intelligent, always doles out nothing but common sense and always manages to keep a cool head when everything around her goes into total disarray. Just imagine my amazement when she told me that she was taking an antidepressant. She did not inherit a predisposition to mental illness, as I did. She was just down on a few sorrows that came her way.

Her family doctor suggested she take one 10 mg tablet of Lexapro (escitalopram) per day. She's been on it for years and her comment on how well it works was "It should be put in the drinking water". Not to be taken seriously, but certainly her way of stating how much the medication helped her.

I need to rewrite a statement I made in my journal yesterday about seeing a psychiatrist. This is not necessary, if you are experiencing disease related depression. Let's be honest here, you're 52 and I just turned 59. I cannot speak for you, Neil, but quite frankly put, I find aging depressing.

You can, however, discuss your emotions with your primary care physician. This is what my friend did and her doctor prescribed the Lexapro for her. Case closed. One little white pill per day and she sees everything in a much better light and does not have to pretend to be content. She is.

We must make responsible decisions about our own health care. I now see doctors as advisors. I had 3 doctors advising me that I probably had lung cancer. They frightened me into a major surgery. I made a terrible decision. You, on the other hand, and in my opinion, made an excellent one.

Speak to your doctor about your feelings and emotions. I hope you have a good physician. They do exist.

Almost forgot to mention that I've obtained incredible relief with an inhaler, as I also have asthma and was suffering from shortness of breath and chest pain. It is called Advair 250/50. Here again, ask your Doc.

You can write me here or @ my email address, if you want to speak more privately. I wish you and your family all things good. Be Well... JanetG

Janet, I think I have always had some depression, but when I was first diagnosed with sarcoidosis and was actively SUFFERING from this disease, I sank into a deep depression. I denied it. My primary care doc, who was wonderful, convinced me to seek professional care. He recognized that I was in a serious state. I thank God for him. He was a caring, insightful professional. When he left the area I doubted I would ever find another one like him (and I haven't yet). I, too, will be on meds for depression for the rest of my life. I can live with that because I know what I'm like without it.
God bless all of you who are fighting the good fight. Thanks to all of you for your honest sharing and caring.

This has been a wonderful thread to read. I do not know how we can not, between the pain, the disease, and the changes in our lives that Sarc mandates not be depressed, and like you I think it does have a chemical effect on our brain.

I totally support anyone seeking help from a therapist or psychiatrist so that you have someone to talk to about what is going on. Even though we have each other here, and hopefully someone in our lives that understands, how many times do we bite our tongue and not really say how we feel? How many times do we say 'fine' because we know it is what is expected, and it is what we want to be, instead of having a chance to just 'unload'?

IF there is anything about this disease we all must learn is to be kind to ourselves. We control that, and sometimes only that. You need a nap, take one. You need a massage, get one. You need to get someone to listen in a nonjudgmental way, get the help.

thanks Janet for this thread

Excellent post, Janet. I was originally misdiagnosed with depressive disorder and treated that way for years. About three and a half years ago, my new primary care provider asked if I'd heard of bipolar disorder, and gave me the name of an excellent psychiatrist. I went to see him, and indeed- it was bipolar, which needs different treatment. Once on the right medications, my whole life changed. Depression meds for depressive disorder can have the same great effect.

Too many people think depression is just feeling down. You can be clinically depressive and still have good days; just as sarkies can have good days too. It doesn't mean it's not still in your system, though.

I agree with you wholeheartedly; if you're feeling down more often than usual, or have bad days for no reason at all, go see a doc! There's no surgical procedures, nothing to lose but a little time, and the world to gain!

Once I got out of the military, I spent too many years thinking I was the weird one; I was just griping while everyone else sucked it up. When I found out I wasn't actually crazy, and found meds to balance my brain, I became a whole person again, and able to function.

I guess my long-windedness boils down to this; I agree with you! *grin* You're great for posting things like this to help people... Letting people know this is real can help much!

Thanks!

Jeff

Hi girl!
Wow, this forum is such a blessing! Where else can we be ourselves and learn from each other. I too suffer from depression, only after years of missed diagnosis and thinking that nothing was really wrong with me, must be in my head. Pretty funny since it is now in my brain! I take meds when I need to, but for me diet has a great effect also. Exercise was great but now impossible. I must say my new friendship with you Janet has lifted my spirits more then you know. Lifting you up to the great Healer Jesus!

Dear Susan,

Thanks for lifting my spirits. I've been feeling crappy and running back and forth to Mayo Clinic. I owe you a letter, and I promise to write soon.

Tried to perk myself up and spent many days gardening. Just about killed myself, but took my pain medication to see me through. Felt a lump under my arm and noticed it was full of blood. I had been bitten by a tick. GROSS> scared me half to death.

My Primary doctor did not have any time to see me. Can you believe that one? My husband did his best to remove it. We then went to an urgent care center and I actually saw an intelligent Doc who knew what sarcoidosis is. He was also very kind. I am now on a 21 day course of antibiotics to prevent (hopefully) the possibility of any diseases like lyme disease or whatever else those nasty bugs can transmit.

Thank you for your kind remarks about me. You're too generous. I just want to help. I try very hard to just put out good information, because there are so many victims of this disease who are scared half to death, with little or no information about sarcoid. I blame this on the medical community's lack of compassion and, it seems to be rampant.

When I think of you, I see you as the poster child for Bravery! I'm so relieved you came through this last episode, as I was very concerned. What a woman you are! Hugs and God Bless... Janet

Hi Janet,

I'm so glad to see your new posting. I was worried about you, because I haven't seen a posting from you in a while. I hope you are feeling better and that the tick did no harm.

Michele

That's interesting. I have a problem with concentration. Got a simple customer service job and I couldn't follow simple procedures... screwed up a few orders too many... got canned. I do believe depression may be part of it. I'd become almost robotic, repeating directions in my head so I wouldn't skip steps, always going to work with a foreboding feeling...
Now, if I don't find a job soon, I'll have to cancel health benefits. I'm those month-2month visits to the retina specialist are costly... especially the cortisone shots into my regularly inflamed eyes.
Any hints or ideas from your own experience?
Liz

Dear Liz... None of us can afford to lose our medical insurance. Were you officially diagnosed with sarcoidosis? If you were, it will be considered a preexisting condition and if you allow your ins. to run out, it is not a good thing.You would, most likely lose all coverage on any preexisting medical conditions.

If I were you, I'd post a letter, detailing all of your diagnoses. Post it in your journal and request help from all the members. You'll be amazed at how many people respond here when you ask for help. Social Security disability may be available to you but, here again, I am not sure. Just put it all out here as your journal. I'm sure you'll get good advice.Sorry I could not be more helpful. Best of luck... JanetG

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